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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 26, 2007 5:26pm : Ìåíåäæåð ïàðîëåé |
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 ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ íàáðàëîñü ñòîëüêî ìíîãî âñåâîçìîæíûõ ïàðîëåé, ÷òî ñòàë ïîíåìíîãó çàáûâàòü èõ... Ñåãîäíÿ ïîñòàâèë ïðîãðàììó äëÿ èõ õðàíåíèÿ: http://keepass.info/ Î÷åíü óäîáíàÿ øòóêà.
Êòî-íèáóäü åùå ïîëüçóåòñÿ ïîäîáíûì ñîôòîì? Åñëè íåò, òî êàê õðàíèòå ñâîè ïàðîëè? _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 26, 2007 6:18pm : |
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êàêîé ñìûñë åé ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ åñëè êîãäà å¸ âçëîìàòü òî âîò îíè ñðàçó è âñå.
ß ñâîè ïîìíþ. ó ìåíÿ èõ øòóê 5 êîòîðûå ÿ è âàðüèðóþ.
Ðàç â äâà-òðè ãîäà âñå 5 âàðèàíòîâ ìåíÿþòñÿ _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 26, 2007 6:25pm : |
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Slava (): |
êàêîé ñìûñë åé ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ åñëè êîãäà å¸ âçëîìàòü òî âîò îíè ñðàçó è âñå. |
×òîáû åå âçëîìàòü, íóæíî êàêèì-òî îáðàçîì äî íåå äîáðàòüñÿ... _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 26, 2007 6:29pm : |
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Andrew (): |
Slava (): |
êàêîé ñìûñë åé ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ åñëè êîãäà å¸ âçëîìàòü òî âîò îíè ñðàçó è âñå. |
×òîáû åå âçëîìàòü, íóæíî êàêèì-òî îáðàçîì äî íåå äîáðàòüñÿ... |
âñåãäà ìîæíî äî âñåãî äîáðàòüñÿ. âîïðîñ âðåìåíè. _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 26, 2007 6:41pm : |
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Slava (): |
âñåãäà ìîæíî äî âñåãî äîáðàòüñÿ. âîïðîñ âðåìåíè. |
Âñåãî-òî íóæíî îáîéòè:
- Ôàéðâîëë
- Àíòèâèðóñ
- Ïàðîëü íà êîìïå
- Íàéòè ôàéë, â êîòîðîì ñîäåðæèòñÿ áàçà äàííûõ ïàðîëåé
- Ïîäîáðàòü ïàðîëü ê ýòîìó ôàéëó èëè ðàñêîäèðîâàòü åãî...
Íå ñîìíåâàþñü, ïðè áîëüøîì æåëàíèè, íàâåðíîå, ýòî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü... Íî ñîìíåâàþñü, ÷òî êòî-òî ýòèì áóäåò çàìîðà÷èâàòüñÿ. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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: , 26, 2007 9:18pm : Re: Ìåíåäæåð ïàðîëåé |
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Andrew (): |
Åñëè íåò, òî êàê õðàíèòå ñâîè ïàðîëè? |
Ïîìíþ. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 26, 2007 9:41pm : Re: Ìåíåäæåð ïàðîëåé |
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Îò ïî÷òû, îò ôîðóìîâ, îò online-banking, îò âñåõ ýëåêòðîííûõ ìàãàçèíîâ, êîòîðûìè ïîëüçóåøüñÿ ò. ä.? Ýòî âñå ðàçíûå ïàðîëè? _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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: , 26, 2007 10:00pm : Re: Ìåíåäæåð ïàðîëåé |
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Andrew (): |
Îò ïî÷òû, îò ôîðóìîâ, îò online-banking, îò âñåõ ýëåêòðîííûõ ìàãàçèíîâ, êîòîðûìè ïîëüçóåøüñÿ ò. ä.? Ýòî âñå ðàçíûå ïàðîëè? |
Íå, ïàðîëè äëÿ òàêîãî òèïà âåùåé ó ìåíÿ ñàì áðàóçåð ïîìíèò.
À âîò ñåðâåðíûå è ñåòåâûå ïàðîëè ïðèõîäèòñÿ ïîìíèòü ñàìîìó, èõ íèêóäà êðîìå êàê â áóìàæíóþ çàïèñíóþ êíèæêó íå çàïèøåøü, à ïîäîáíóþ êíèæêó ÿ óæå îäíàæäû ïîòåðÿë Áûëî âåñåëî âñïîìèíàòü ïàðîëü àäìèíèñòðàòîðà íà ìàøèíó êîòîðàÿ ïðîðàáîòàëà áåñïåðåáîéíî øåñòü ëåò. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 26, 2007 10:08pm : Re: Ìåíåäæåð ïàðîëåé |
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White Owl (): |
Íå, ïàðîëè äëÿ òàêîãî òèïà âåùåé ó ìåíÿ ñàì áðàóçåð ïîìíèò. |
Ó ìåíÿ òîæå... Íî ìàëî ëè ÷òî ñëó÷èòüñÿ ñ êîìïîì? Ïðèäåòñÿ âîññòàíàâëèâàòü âñå çàáûòûå ïàðîëè... Ïîòåðÿ âðåìåíè. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 27, 2007 1:57pm : Re: Ìåíåäæåð ïàðîëåé |
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Andrew (): |
Îò ïî÷òû, îò ôîðóìîâ, îò online-banking, îò âñåõ ýëåêòðîííûõ ìàãàçèíîâ, êîòîðûìè ïîëüçóåøüñÿ ò. ä.? Ýòî âñå ðàçíûå ïàðîëè? |
Ó ìåíÿ äëÿ ýòîãî âñåãî êàê ÿ è ãîâîðèë 5 ïàðîëåé _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 27, 2007 3:27pm : Re: Ìåíåäæåð ïàðîëåé |
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Slava (): |
Ó ìåíÿ äëÿ ýòîãî âñåãî êàê ÿ è ãîâîðèë 5 ïàðîëåé |
Ìíå ýòà ïðîãðàììà åùå èíòåðåñíà è ïîòîìó, ÷òî äëÿ íåêîòîðûõ ïðîåêòîâ ïðèõîäèòñÿ õðàíèòü ïàðîëè ðàçíûõ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé. ß ïðîñòî íå ìîãó èõ ïîìíèòü, è íå ìîãó äëÿ âñåõ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé èñïîëüçîâàòü îäèí è òîò æå ïàðîëü. Äî ýòîãî âñå õðàíèëîñü â òåêñòîâîì ôàéëå... _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 27, 2007 3:51pm : Re: Ìåíåäæåð ïàðîëåé |
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Andrew (): |
Slava (): |
Ó ìåíÿ äëÿ ýòîãî âñåãî êàê ÿ è ãîâîðèë 5 ïàðîëåé |
Ìíå ýòà ïðîãðàììà åùå èíòåðåñíà è ïîòîìó, ÷òî äëÿ íåêîòîðûõ ïðîåêòîâ ïðèõîäèòñÿ õðàíèòü ïàðîëè ðàçíûõ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé. ß ïðîñòî íå ìîãó èõ ïîìíèòü, è íå ìîãó äëÿ âñåõ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé èñïîëüçîâàòü îäèí è òîò æå ïàðîëü. Äî ýòîãî âñå õðàíèëîñü â òåêñòîâîì ôàéëå... |
À âîò ýòî óæå âûõîäèò çà ðàìêè îáû÷íîé ïàìÿòè _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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howfarisheaven Íîâè÷îê
: 05.06.2007 : 38
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: , 28, 2007 4:50am : Re: Ìåíåäæåð ïàðîëåé |
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Andrew (): |
 ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ íàáðàëîñü ñòîëüêî ìíîãî âñåâîçìîæíûõ ïàðîëåé, ÷òî ñòàë ïîíåìíîãó çàáûâàòü èõ... Ñåãîäíÿ ïîñòàâèë ïðîãðàììó äëÿ èõ õðàíåíèÿ: http://keepass.info/ Î÷åíü óäîáíàÿ øòóêà.
Êòî-íèáóäü åùå ïîëüçóåòñÿ ïîäîáíûì ñîôòîì? Åñëè íåò, òî êàê õðàíèòå ñâîè ïàðîëè? |
U nortona est' v 2004 godu i roboform
vo mnogih progah passwords r encrypted _________________ I sue- therefore i am |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 6, 2007 4:21pm : |
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Îñíîâíûå ïàðîëè ÿ ïîìíþ. Ïîìíþ ñàìûé ãëàâíûé ïàðîëü - îò ïî÷òû. Íà ïî÷òó çàâÿçàíî âñå îñòàëüíîå, ò.ê. åñëè ÿ çàáûâàþ ïàðîëü îò êàêîãî-òî ôîðóìà èëè ñåðâèñà, òî ïîëüçóþñü ôóíêöèåé âîññòàíîâëåíèÿ ÷åðåç ïî÷òó. Î÷åíü óäîáíî.
Òàêàÿ ñèñòåìà ïëîõà: ïðè ïîòåðå ïî÷òû åñòü ðèñê ïîòåðÿòü ìíîãîå. Íî ïîìåíÿòü ñèñòåìó ó ìåíÿ ïîêà ðóêè íå äîõîäÿò.
Êàêèå-òî ïàðîëè õðàíÿòñÿ â áàíàëüíîì òåêñòîâîì ôàéëèêå.  ïðèíöèïå, ýòî äàæå è íå ñàìûé ïëîõîé ñïîñîá. Ïîòîìó ÷òî ôàéëèê æå íàçûâàåòñÿ íåî÷åâèäíî (ïî íàçâàíèþ íåëüçÿ îïðåäåëèòü, ÷òî â íåì ïàðîëè), è çàïèñàíû ëîãèíû ñ èñêàæåíèÿìè, òàê ÷òî íàéòè ýòî âñå ìîæíî òîëüêî ñëó÷àéíî íàòêíóâøèñü (à ëåæèò îí íå íà âèäíîì ìåñòå).
Âîîáùå, õî÷ó íàïèñàòü ñâîþ ïðîãðàììêó äëÿ õðàíåíèÿ ïàðîëåé. Óæ ñâîþ òî íå âçëîìàþò òî÷íî, õîòÿ áû ïîòîìó ÷òî íèêòî ïðî íåå çíàòü íå áóäåò, â îòëè÷èå îò ñêà÷àííûõ â íåòå ïðîãðàììîê. Íî... òîæå ðóêè íå äîõîäÿò. |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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: , 7, 2007 4:32pm : |
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ß ïðîãðàììàì íå äîâåðÿþ, ïîýòîìó âñå ïàðîëè è ÿâêè çàïèñûâàþ â òåòðàäî÷êó. Ñàìûå âàæíûå (email, áàíê), êîíå÷íî, çàïîìèíàþ è íå äàþ ñîõðàíÿòü, îñòàëüíûå Windows çà ìåíÿ çàïîìèíàåò. |
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MaxNero Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 19.04.2005 : 641 : Different city in USA :) -> Moscow, RU -> USA
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: , 8, 2007 6:40am : |
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Ò.ê. ÷èñëî ðàçëè÷íûõ èíòåðíåò àêêàóíòîâ (ôîðóìû, ñàéòû, äîìåíû, õîñòèíãè, èíòåðíåò ìàãàçèíû, ïàðîëè òî÷åê äîñòóïà, ìàéëû è ò.ä.) óæå ïåðåâàëèëî çà 50, äëÿ õðàíåíèÿ ìàëî èñïîëüçóåìûõ ïàðîëåé èñïîëüçóþ SplashID. Ïðîãðàììêà ïëàòíàÿ, çàòî åñòü äëÿ ëþáîé ïëàòôîðìû ñ ñèíõðîíèçàöèåé ñ DeskTop âåðñèåé. ß èñïîëüçîâàë åå ðàíüøå â ñâÿçêå PalmOS->PC, òåïåðü PC->Series60 (ïåðåõîä ñòîèë 9$, íî çàòî íè î ÷åì íå ïðèøëîñü áåñïîêîèòüñÿ)
Àðòåì Êàê ðàç "ñâîþ" âçëîìàþò ãîðàçäî áûñòðåå, ÷åì ïëàòíóþ. Òàê ÷òî åñëè òîëüêî ñòàâèòü ñòàâêó íà òî, ÷òî ïðî íåå íèêòî íå áóäåò çíàòü |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 8, 2007 12:50pm : |
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MaxNero (): |
Àðòåì Êàê ðàç "ñâîþ" âçëîìàþò ãîðàçäî áûñòðåå, ÷åì ïëàòíóþ. Òàê ÷òî åñëè òîëüêî ñòàâèòü ñòàâêó íà òî, ÷òî ïðî íåå íèêòî íå áóäåò çíàòü |
Íó, åñòåñòâåííî. Íà ýòî âñÿ è ñòàâêà. Êàê ìîæíî âçëîìàòü ïðîãðàììó, åñëè åå â Ñåòè íåò.
Òåì áîëåå, åñëè ïðîãðàììà áóäåò âñå õðàíèòü â î÷åíü íåî÷åâèäíîì âèäå (â òåêñòîâîì â ïðîèçâîëüíîé ôîðìå íàïèñàíèÿ), è åùå ÿ ëþáëþ èçîáðåòàòü âåëîñèïåä (BDE? Çà÷åì íàì BDE, êîãäà åñòü òèïèçèðîâàííûå ôàéëû, íó è âñå â òàêîì äóõå ). |
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