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SystemChaos
Íîâè÷îê


: 27.10.2009
: 30

: , 19, 2009 4:35am     : Êóäà îáðàòèòüñÿ?

Ïðèâåò Âñåì! Ïîñîâåòóéòå ïîæàëóéñòà â êàêóþ íîðìàëüíóþ ñåðü¸çíóþ êîìïàíèþ ìîæíî îáðàòèòüñÿ, ÷òîáû íàéòè ñåáå ðàáîòó â ÑØÀ è îäíîâðåìåííî ó÷èòüñÿ? Êòî êóäà îáðàùàëñÿ? Êàêàÿ êîìïàíèÿ ëó÷øå?
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I love music!
Debaser
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 19, 2009 2:55pm     :

Êàê ìîæíî íàéòè íîðìàëüíóþ ñåðüåçíóþ êîìïàíèþ íà íåñóùåñòâóþùóþ ïðîãðàììó? Ïî ðàáî÷åé âèçå íåëüçÿ ó÷èòüñÿ íà ïðîãðàììå ïðåäïîëàãàþøåé ïîëó÷åíèå ñòåïåíè. Âèçû H1B ðàñ÷èòàíû íà ïðîôåññèîíàëîâ, à íå íà ñòóäåíòîâ. Êîíå÷íî íà êóðñû èëè êîíôåðåíöèþ òåáÿ ðàáîòîäàòåëü ìîæåò ïîñëàòü, â ïîðÿäêå ïîâûøåíèÿ êâàëèôèêàöèè, íî ýòî íå ó÷åáà êàê òàêîâàÿ Ïî ó÷åáíîé âèçå íåëüçÿ ðàáîòàòü, åñëè íå ñ÷èòàòü ïîäðàáîòêè äî 20 ÷àñîâ â íåäåëþ íà êàìïóñå, êîòîðóþ êàê ïðàâèëî íàéòè î÷åíü òÿæåëî, åñëè òîëüêî íåò RA èëè TA assignment'a îò òâîåãî äåïàðòìåíòà.
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Êëàññíî!
SystemChaos
Íîâè÷îê


: 27.10.2009
: 30

: , 19, 2009 4:48pm     :

Ñëåäóåò ëè òîãäà äîâåðÿòü òîìó, ÷òî ïðåäëàãàåò âîò ýòà êîìïàíèÿ: http://www.job4u.ru/usws.htm. Óæå íå çíàþ òîãäà, ÷òî äåëàòü. Ïîæàëóéñòà. Ïîñîâåòóéòå ÷åì ìîæåòå.)))
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I love music!
Debaser
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 19, 2009 7:10pm     :

SystemChaos ():
Ñëåäóåò ëè òîãäà äîâåðÿòü òîìó, ÷òî ïðåäëàãàåò âîò ýòà êîìïàíèÿ: http://www.job4u.ru/usws.htm. Óæå íå çíàþ òîãäà, ÷òî äåëàòü. Ïîæàëóéñòà. Ïîñîâåòóéòå ÷åì ìîæåòå.)))

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Âîçìîæåí ïîäáîð âàêàíñèè äëÿ ðàáîòû èëè ñòàæèðîâêè â ÑØÀ â ñôåðå îáñëóæèâàíèÿ (â áàðàõ, ðåñòîðàíàõ, ãîñòèíèöàõ), ðàáîòû â îôèñå, íà ñòðîéêàõ, âîäèòåëÿìè, ñïàñàòåëÿìè ó áàññåéíîâ è ò.ä. ñ çàðïëàòîé îò 6-7 äîëëàðîâ â ÷àñ è âûøå, â çàâèñèìîñòè îò íàâûêîâ, îïûòà ðàáîòû è óðîâíÿ âëàäåíèÿ èíîñòðàííûìè ÿçûêàìè.
Î÷åâèäíî òàêàÿ ðàáîòà íà ñòóäåí÷åñêîé âèçå - ïîëíàÿ íåëåãàëüùèíà. ×òîáû ïîëó÷èòü âèçó F1, íå íóæíî ïëàòèòü 34,000 ðóáëåé íåïîíÿòíîé ôèðìå. Ìîæíî ïðåêðàñíî ñàìîìó ïîñòóïèòü íà ó÷åáó.
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Êëàññíî!
SystemChaos
Íîâè÷îê


: 27.10.2009
: 30

: , 19, 2009 7:51pm     :

Ñåé÷àñ ó ìåíÿ îêîí÷åííîå âûñøåå îáðàçîâàíèå ïî òåõíè÷åñêîé ñïåöèàëüíîñòè. ß ðàáîòàþ, íå ñòóäåíò. Õî÷ó ñïðîñèòü, åñòü ëè òîãäà êàêàÿ-ëèáî äðóãàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü ïîåõàòü â ÑØÀ?  ïðèíöèïå ìîãó ðàáîòàòü íå ïî ñâîåé ñïåöèàëüíîñòè. Âîçìîæíî ëè íàéòè òàêóþ ðàáîòó? Ìîæåò êòî-òî ÷òî-òî ïîñîâåòóåò, ãäå èñêàòü è êóäà îïÿòü æå îáðàùàòüñÿ. Ñïàñèáî. Debaser Âàì îòäåëüíîå ñïàñèáî. Âû î÷åíü õîðîøèé è ïóíêòóàëüíûé ÷åëîâåê è ïîìîãàåòå ñîâåòîì î÷åíü âîâðåìÿ. Õîðîøî, ÷òî åñòü òàêèå ëþäè. Êëàññíî! Êëàññíî! Óëûáêà
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I love music!
Hashish
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 06.03.2008
: 1231

: , 20, 2009 12:56am     :

Debaser ():
Ïî ðàáî÷åé âèçå íåëüçÿ ó÷èòüñÿ íà ïðîãðàììå ïðåäïîëàãàþøåé ïîëó÷åíèå ñòåïåíè.
Äà âû øî?
SystemChaos
Íîâè÷îê


: 27.10.2009
: 30

: , 20, 2009 4:23am     :

Hashish
Ðàçâå ìîæíî?
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I love music!
Hashish
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 06.03.2008
: 1231

: , 20, 2009 4:49am     :

Ïî h1b ìîæíî, ïðî h2b æå íóæíî çàáûòü - ýòî àòàâèçì.

À êîìïàíèÿ âàøà ïî ññûëêå - ãîâíåöî-ñ. Ïîìèìî òîãî, ÷òî òóò íàïèñàëè óæå - ïîñîëüñêèå ôîðìû íå òå, "îò 2 äî 15 ëåò" ýòî ãîí. Åñëè õîòèòå ó÷èòüñÿ - ïîñòóïèòå ñàìè êóäà-íèáóäü, ýòî íå òàê ñëîæíî, à åñëè õîòèòå íåëåãàëüíî ðàáîòàòü, òî ñ ðàâíûì óñïåõîì ìîæíî è ïî òóðâèçå - äëÿ ýòîãî 34 òîííû íå íàäî.
Debaser
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 20, 2009 12:07pm     :

Hashish ():
Debaser ():
Ïî ðàáî÷åé âèçå íåëüçÿ ó÷èòüñÿ íà ïðîãðàììå ïðåäïîëàãàþøåé ïîëó÷åíèå ñòåïåíè.
Äà âû øî?
Òàêè äà.
Boston University ():
You are permitted to enroll in individual classes while in H-1B status as long as you continue working in your H-1B position without change.

Georgetown Law ():
To enroll in non-degree courses at the Georgetown Law, you must hold an entry visa status that allows part-time study in the United States. Some entry visa types allow part-time or non-degree coursework and others do not. E.g., G-4 and H1B permit enrollment while a B-1/B-2 status does not. Non-degree applicants who hold other entry visa status can phone or email the Visa Coordinator for clarification prior to submitting a non-degree application to the Office of the Registrar.
È òàê äàëåå. Íàéäè õîòÿ áû îäèí óíèâåð, êîòîðûé ïðèíÿë áû ÷åëîâåêà íà H1B íà degree program.
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Êëàññíî!
Slava
ÍËÎ


: 10.03.2003
: 4182
: at this moment Stamford CT

: , 20, 2009 2:40pm     :

Debaser ():
Hashish ():
Debaser ():
Ïî ðàáî÷åé âèçå íåëüçÿ ó÷èòüñÿ íà ïðîãðàììå ïðåäïîëàãàþøåé ïîëó÷åíèå ñòåïåíè.
Äà âû øî?
Òàêè äà.
Boston University ():
You are permitted to enroll in individual classes while in H-1B status as long as you continue working in your H-1B position without change.

Georgetown Law ():
To enroll in non-degree courses at the Georgetown Law, you must hold an entry visa status that allows part-time study in the United States. Some entry visa types allow part-time or non-degree coursework and others do not. E.g., G-4 and H1B permit enrollment while a B-1/B-2 status does not. Non-degree applicants who hold other entry visa status can phone or email the Visa Coordinator for clarification prior to submitting a non-degree application to the Office of the Registrar.
È òàê äàëåå. Íàéäè õîòÿ áû îäèí óíèâåð, êîòîðûé ïðèíÿë áû ÷åëîâåêà íà H1B íà degree program.

À ðàçâå Àíäðþõà íå â óíèâåðå ó÷èòñÿ è îäíîâðåìåííî íà H1-B ñèäèò?
È åùå ÿ çíàþ, ó íàñ åñòü äåâóøêà íà ðàáîòå, ó êîòîðîé H1-B è îíà ãîòîâèòñÿ ïîñòóïèòü â óíèâåð.
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 20, 2009 3:46pm     :

Slava ():
À ðàçâå Àíäðþõà íå â óíèâåðå ó÷èòñÿ è îäíîâðåìåííî íà H1-B ñèäèò?

 ñâîå âðåìÿ ÿ çàäàâàë òàêîé âîïðîñ student advisor ñâîåãî óíèâåðà, îíà ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ìîæíî. Ïåðåïðîâåðÿòü ÿ íå ïåðåïðîâåðÿë, ïîýòîìó, ÷åñòíî ãîâîðÿ, íå íà ÷òî îïåðåòüñÿ, ÷òîáû óòâåðæäàòü, ÷òî ìîæíî èëè íåëüçÿ. Çíàþ òîëüêî íåñêîëüêî ëþäåé, êòî ïîëó÷àåò Master's íà H1 â ðàçíûõ óíèâåðñèòåòàõ.

Ìíå, ñîáñòâåííî, íå òàê âàæíî - íàäîåëî óæå ïëÿñàòü ïîä äóäêó USÑIS Èðîíè÷åñêè çëîé Ýòà ó÷åáà, êîòîðóþ ÿ óæå ïðàêòè÷åñêè çàêîí÷èë, äàëà ìíå ãîðàçäî áîëüøå, ÷åì âíóòðåííåå ñïîêîéñòâèå î òîì, ÷òî íå íàðóøèë êàêîé-òî èììèãðàöèîííûé çàêîí. Ïîøëè îíè ê ÷åðòÿì.
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Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ
Debaser
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 20, 2009 4:20pm     :

Andrew ():

 ñâîå âðåìÿ ÿ çàäàâàë òàêîé âîïðîñ student advisor ñâîåãî óíèâåðà, îíà ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ìîæíî. Ïåðåïðîâåðÿòü ÿ íå ïåðåïðîâåðÿë, ïîýòîìó, ÷åñòíî ãîâîðÿ, íå íà ÷òî îïåðåòüñÿ, ÷òîáû óòâåðæäàòü, ÷òî ìîæíî èëè íåëüçÿ. Çíàþ òîëüêî íåñêîëüêî ëþäåé, êòî ïîëó÷àåò Master's íà H1 â ðàçíûõ óíèâåðñèòåòàõ.
Íó ðàç ìîæíî çíà÷èò ìîæíî. Ãîòîâ ïðèçíàòü ÷òî áûë íåïðàâ.
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Êëàññíî!
Hashish
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 06.03.2008
: 1231

: , 20, 2009 4:42pm     :

Andrew ():
 ñâîå âðåìÿ ÿ çàäàâàë òàêîé âîïðîñ student advisor ñâîåãî óíèâåðà, îíà ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ìîæíî.
Îíà ïðàâà. È h4 ìîæíî.
Àðòåì
Ìîäåðàòîð


: 10.03.2003
: 8295
: Russia, Ufa

: , 20, 2009 6:49pm     :

Andrew ():
Ýòà ó÷åáà, êîòîðóþ ÿ óæå ïðàêòè÷åñêè çàêîí÷èë, äàëà ìíå ãîðàçäî áîëüøå, ÷åì âíóòðåííåå ñïîêîéñòâèå î òîì, ÷òî íå íàðóøèë êàêîé-òî èììèãðàöèîííûé çàêîí. Ïîøëè îíè ê ÷åðòÿì.


Êëàññíî! Øèðîêàÿ óëûáêà
Àðòåì
Ìîäåðàòîð


: 10.03.2003
: 8295
: Russia, Ufa

: , 20, 2009 6:50pm     :

Hashish ():
Andrew ():
 ñâîå âðåìÿ ÿ çàäàâàë òàêîé âîïðîñ student advisor ñâîåãî óíèâåðà, îíà ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ìîæíî.
Îíà ïðàâà. È h4 ìîæíî.


×èòàë äíåâíèê îäíîé äåâóøêè. Ó íåå ìóæ-ïðîãðàììèñò. À îíà ñèäåëà-ñèäåëà äîìà íà H4, äà è ïîøëà ó÷èòüñÿ. Âûó÷èëàñü íà "ñåðâèñ è òóðèçì", ïîøëà âîëîíòåðèòü, à ïîòîì òîæå íà H1-B óñòðîèëàñü, êàæåòñÿ. Óëûáêà Èëè óæå ê òîìó âðåìåíè GC áûëà - íå ïîìíþ.
SystemChaos
Íîâè÷îê


: 27.10.2009
: 30

: , 20, 2009 8:54pm     :

Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ÷òî ìîæíî? Çíà÷èò ïî ýòèì äâóì âèçàì H1-B èëè H4 ÿ êàê ïîíÿë ìîãó ó÷èòüñÿ è ïîëó÷àòü ñòåïåíü è îäíîâðåìåííî ðàáîòàòü ñòîëüêî ñêîëüêî ÿ ìîãó, ÷èñòî èñõîäÿ èç âîçìîæíîñòåé ñâîåãî îðãàíèçìà,)))? Ïîäñêàæèòå òîãäà ïîæàëóéñòà ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü: ñ êàêîé-ëèáî êîìïàíèè, êîòîðàÿ ýòèì çàíèìàåòñÿ èëè ñàìîìó âñ¸ ýòî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü. Áóäó ðàä ëþáîìó ñîâåòó. Ëþáàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ äà¸ò ìíå ïèùó äëÿ ðàçìûøëåíèÿ è ïî÷âó äëÿ êîíêðåòíûõ äåéñòâèé))))
Ñïàñèáî Âñåì îãðîìíîå!!!
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I love music!
Àðòåì
Ìîäåðàòîð


: 10.03.2003
: 8295
: Russia, Ufa

: , 20, 2009 11:08pm     :

SystemChaos ():
Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ÷òî ìîæíî? Çíà÷èò ïî ýòèì äâóì âèçàì H1-B èëè H4 ÿ êàê ïîíÿë ìîãó ó÷èòüñÿ è ïîëó÷àòü ñòåïåíü è îäíîâðåìåííî ðàáîòàòü ñòîëüêî ñêîëüêî ÿ ìîãó, ÷èñòî èñõîäÿ èç âîçìîæíîñòåé ñâîåãî îðãàíèçìà,)))? Ïîäñêàæèòå òîãäà ïîæàëóéñòà ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü: ñ êàêîé-ëèáî êîìïàíèè, êîòîðàÿ ýòèì çàíèìàåòñÿ èëè ñàìîìó âñ¸ ýòî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü. Áóäó ðàä ëþáîìó ñîâåòó. Ëþáàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ äà¸ò ìíå ïèùó äëÿ ðàçìûøëåíèÿ è ïî÷âó äëÿ êîíêðåòíûõ äåéñòâèé))))
Ñïàñèáî Âñåì îãðîìíîå!!!


Òîëüêî ôèøêà â òîì, ÷òî íà H1-B ðàáîòàòü íàäî ìíîãî (íå 2 òàì èëè 4 ÷àñà). Ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, íà ó÷åáó îñòàíåòñÿ ìàëî âðåìåíè è ñèë. Ïîýòîìó, òàêîå âûïîëíèòü ñëîæíî, õîòÿ è âîçìîæíî (ãëÿäÿ íà Àíäðåÿ Óëûáêà ).

Ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü... ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü... íàâåðíîå, ñ ïîèñêà ðàáîòû. ß íå ñèë¸í â äåòàëÿõ è ïîäðîáíîñòÿõ. Íî, íàâåðíîå, íàäî íàéòè ñàéòû ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèå è ñìîòðåòü âàêàíñèè, à òàêæå ðàññûëàòü ðåçþìå. Ðåçþìå ñîñòàâèòü ãðàìîòíî (çäåñü ìîãóò ïîìî÷ü êîìïàíèè, â îñòàëüíîì, íå äóìàþ, ÷òî ñòîèò èì ïëàòèòü íåïîíÿòíî çà ÷òî). Íî ñ ðåçþìå ìîãóò ïîìî÷ü è íà ôîðóìå (ïðè óñëîâèè, ÷òî íàäî áóäåò ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî âñå-òàêè äåëàòü è âíèêàòü). Ïîäãîòîâèòüñÿ ê âîçìîæíîñòè òåëåôîííîãî èíòåðâüþ íà àíãëèéñêîì ÿçûêå.

Âîîáùå, ÷òîáû ñåé÷àñ ïîëó÷èòü H1-B, íàäî íå ïðîñòî áûòü ñïåöèàëèñòîì ñ àíãëèéñêèì ÿçûêîì, íàäî áûòü ðåäêèì è âîñòðåáîâàíûì äëÿ àìåðèêàíñêîãî ðûíêà òðóäà ñïåöèàëèñòîì, èíà÷å îíè ïðîñòî âîçüìóò ìåñòíîãî.

Íó à íàéäÿ ðàáîòó, äàëüøå - ýòî óæå äåëî òåõíèêè, õîòü è õëîïîòû. À ó÷åáó, ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ëó÷øå ïðèñìàòðèâàòü óæå òàì, îáóñòðîèâøèñü è ðàçîáðàâøèñü ñ ðàáîòîé.

Òàêîå âîò ÈÌÕÎ.
Hashish
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 06.03.2008
: 1231

: , 21, 2009 12:53am     :

Àðòåì ():
×èòàë äíåâíèê îäíîé äåâóøêè. Ó íåå ìóæ-ïðîãðàììèñò. À îíà ñèäåëà-ñèäåëà äîìà íà H4, äà è ïîøëà ó÷èòüñÿ. Âûó÷èëàñü íà "ñåðâèñ è òóðèçì", ïîøëà âîëîíòåðèòü, à ïîòîì òîæå íà H1-B óñòðîèëàñü, êàæåòñÿ. Óëûáêà Èëè óæå ê òîìó âðåìåíè GC áûëà - íå ïîìíþ.
Ó ìåíÿ æåíà ó÷èëàñü 9 ìåñÿöåâ íà êóðñàõ àíãëèéñêîãî ôóëòàéì, ïîòîì âîëîíò¸ðèëà, ÷òîáû çàïîëèðîâàòü àíãëèéñêèé, ùàñ ïîñòóïàåò â ÂÓÇ. Êîëü ñêîðî íà H4 ðàáîòàòü íåëüçÿ, ñàìîå ðàçóìíîå - ïîó÷èòüñÿ, äî ÃÊ ìîæíî õîòü êàíäèäàòñêóþ çàùèòèòü.
Hashish
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 06.03.2008
: 1231

: , 21, 2009 12:56am     :

Àðòåì ():
Íó à íàéäÿ ðàáîòó, äàëüøå - ýòî óæå äåëî òåõíèêè, õîòü è õëîïîòû. À ó÷åáó, ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ëó÷øå ïðèñìàòðèâàòü óæå òàì, îáóñòðîèâøèñü è ðàçîáðàâøèñü ñ ðàáîòîé.
Îñîáåííî â øòàòå, ãäå h1b ìîãóò ïëàòèòü in-state tuition.
Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 21, 2009 10:25pm     :

SystemChaos ():
Ïîäñêàæèòå òîãäà ïîæàëóéñòà ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü

Íà÷àòü ñëåäóåò ñ òîãî, ÷òîáû îçíàêîìèòüñÿ ïîäðîáíåå ñ òåì, ÷òî íóæíî äëÿ ïîëó÷åíèÿ H1 è êàê âîîáùå ïðîèñõîäèò ïðîöåññ îôîðìëåíèÿ. Òàêæå, ïîíÿòü, êàêèì òðåáîâàíèÿì äîëæåí îòâå÷àòü ðàáîòîäàòåëü.
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