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SystemChaos Íîâè÷îê
: 27.10.2009 : 30
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: , 19, 2009 4:35am : Êóäà îáðàòèòüñÿ? |
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Ïðèâåò Âñåì! Ïîñîâåòóéòå ïîæàëóéñòà â êàêóþ íîðìàëüíóþ ñåðü¸çíóþ êîìïàíèþ ìîæíî îáðàòèòüñÿ, ÷òîáû íàéòè ñåáå ðàáîòó â ÑØÀ è îäíîâðåìåííî ó÷èòüñÿ? Êòî êóäà îáðàùàëñÿ? Êàêàÿ êîìïàíèÿ ëó÷øå? _________________ I love music! |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 19, 2009 2:55pm : |
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Êàê ìîæíî íàéòè íîðìàëüíóþ ñåðüåçíóþ êîìïàíèþ íà íåñóùåñòâóþùóþ ïðîãðàììó? Ïî ðàáî÷åé âèçå íåëüçÿ ó÷èòüñÿ íà ïðîãðàììå ïðåäïîëàãàþøåé ïîëó÷åíèå ñòåïåíè. Âèçû H1B ðàñ÷èòàíû íà ïðîôåññèîíàëîâ, à íå íà ñòóäåíòîâ. Êîíå÷íî íà êóðñû èëè êîíôåðåíöèþ òåáÿ ðàáîòîäàòåëü ìîæåò ïîñëàòü, â ïîðÿäêå ïîâûøåíèÿ êâàëèôèêàöèè, íî ýòî íå ó÷åáà êàê òàêîâàÿ Ïî ó÷åáíîé âèçå íåëüçÿ ðàáîòàòü, åñëè íå ñ÷èòàòü ïîäðàáîòêè äî 20 ÷àñîâ â íåäåëþ íà êàìïóñå, êîòîðóþ êàê ïðàâèëî íàéòè î÷åíü òÿæåëî, åñëè òîëüêî íåò RA èëè TA assignment'a îò òâîåãî äåïàðòìåíòà. _________________
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SystemChaos Íîâè÷îê
: 27.10.2009 : 30
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: , 19, 2009 4:48pm : |
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Ñëåäóåò ëè òîãäà äîâåðÿòü òîìó, ÷òî ïðåäëàãàåò âîò ýòà êîìïàíèÿ: http://www.job4u.ru/usws.htm. Óæå íå çíàþ òîãäà, ÷òî äåëàòü. Ïîæàëóéñòà. Ïîñîâåòóéòå ÷åì ìîæåòå.))) _________________ I love music! |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 19, 2009 7:10pm : |
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SystemChaos (): |
Ñëåäóåò ëè òîãäà äîâåðÿòü òîìó, ÷òî ïðåäëàãàåò âîò ýòà êîìïàíèÿ: http://www.job4u.ru/usws.htm. Óæå íå çíàþ òîãäà, ÷òî äåëàòü. Ïîæàëóéñòà. Ïîñîâåòóéòå ÷åì ìîæåòå.))) |
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Âîçìîæåí ïîäáîð âàêàíñèè äëÿ ðàáîòû èëè ñòàæèðîâêè â ÑØÀ â ñôåðå îáñëóæèâàíèÿ (â áàðàõ, ðåñòîðàíàõ, ãîñòèíèöàõ), ðàáîòû â îôèñå, íà ñòðîéêàõ, âîäèòåëÿìè, ñïàñàòåëÿìè ó áàññåéíîâ è ò.ä. ñ çàðïëàòîé îò 6-7 äîëëàðîâ â ÷àñ è âûøå, â çàâèñèìîñòè îò íàâûêîâ, îïûòà ðàáîòû è óðîâíÿ âëàäåíèÿ èíîñòðàííûìè ÿçûêàìè. |
Î÷åâèäíî òàêàÿ ðàáîòà íà ñòóäåí÷åñêîé âèçå - ïîëíàÿ íåëåãàëüùèíà. ×òîáû ïîëó÷èòü âèçó F1, íå íóæíî ïëàòèòü 34,000 ðóáëåé íåïîíÿòíîé ôèðìå. Ìîæíî ïðåêðàñíî ñàìîìó ïîñòóïèòü íà ó÷åáó. _________________
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SystemChaos Íîâè÷îê
: 27.10.2009 : 30
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: , 19, 2009 7:51pm : |
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Ñåé÷àñ ó ìåíÿ îêîí÷åííîå âûñøåå îáðàçîâàíèå ïî òåõíè÷åñêîé ñïåöèàëüíîñòè. ß ðàáîòàþ, íå ñòóäåíò. Õî÷ó ñïðîñèòü, åñòü ëè òîãäà êàêàÿ-ëèáî äðóãàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü ïîåõàòü â ÑØÀ?  ïðèíöèïå ìîãó ðàáîòàòü íå ïî ñâîåé ñïåöèàëüíîñòè. Âîçìîæíî ëè íàéòè òàêóþ ðàáîòó? Ìîæåò êòî-òî ÷òî-òî ïîñîâåòóåò, ãäå èñêàòü è êóäà îïÿòü æå îáðàùàòüñÿ. Ñïàñèáî. Debaser Âàì îòäåëüíîå ñïàñèáî. Âû î÷åíü õîðîøèé è ïóíêòóàëüíûé ÷åëîâåê è ïîìîãàåòå ñîâåòîì î÷åíü âîâðåìÿ. Õîðîøî, ÷òî åñòü òàêèå ëþäè. _________________ I love music! |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.03.2008 : 1231
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: , 20, 2009 12:56am : |
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Debaser (): |
Ïî ðàáî÷åé âèçå íåëüçÿ ó÷èòüñÿ íà ïðîãðàììå ïðåäïîëàãàþøåé ïîëó÷åíèå ñòåïåíè. |
Äà âû øî? |
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SystemChaos Íîâè÷îê
: 27.10.2009 : 30
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: , 20, 2009 4:23am : |
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Hashish
Ðàçâå ìîæíî? _________________ I love music! |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.03.2008 : 1231
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: , 20, 2009 4:49am : |
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Ïî h1b ìîæíî, ïðî h2b æå íóæíî çàáûòü - ýòî àòàâèçì.
À êîìïàíèÿ âàøà ïî ññûëêå - ãîâíåöî-ñ. Ïîìèìî òîãî, ÷òî òóò íàïèñàëè óæå - ïîñîëüñêèå ôîðìû íå òå, "îò 2 äî 15 ëåò" ýòî ãîí. Åñëè õîòèòå ó÷èòüñÿ - ïîñòóïèòå ñàìè êóäà-íèáóäü, ýòî íå òàê ñëîæíî, à åñëè õîòèòå íåëåãàëüíî ðàáîòàòü, òî ñ ðàâíûì óñïåõîì ìîæíî è ïî òóðâèçå - äëÿ ýòîãî 34 òîííû íå íàäî. |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 20, 2009 12:07pm : |
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Hashish (): |
Debaser (): |
Ïî ðàáî÷åé âèçå íåëüçÿ ó÷èòüñÿ íà ïðîãðàììå ïðåäïîëàãàþøåé ïîëó÷åíèå ñòåïåíè. |
Äà âû øî? |
Òàêè äà.
Boston University (): |
You are permitted to enroll in individual classes while in H-1B status as long as you continue working in your H-1B position without change. |
Georgetown Law (): |
To enroll in non-degree courses at the Georgetown Law, you must hold an entry visa status that allows part-time study in the United States. Some entry visa types allow part-time or non-degree coursework and others do not. E.g., G-4 and H1B permit enrollment while a B-1/B-2 status does not. Non-degree applicants who hold other entry visa status can phone or email the Visa Coordinator for clarification prior to submitting a non-degree application to the Office of the Registrar. |
È òàê äàëåå. Íàéäè õîòÿ áû îäèí óíèâåð, êîòîðûé ïðèíÿë áû ÷åëîâåêà íà H1B íà degree program. _________________
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 20, 2009 2:40pm : |
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Debaser (): |
Hashish (): |
Debaser (): |
Ïî ðàáî÷åé âèçå íåëüçÿ ó÷èòüñÿ íà ïðîãðàììå ïðåäïîëàãàþøåé ïîëó÷åíèå ñòåïåíè. |
Äà âû øî? |
Òàêè äà.
Boston University (): |
You are permitted to enroll in individual classes while in H-1B status as long as you continue working in your H-1B position without change. |
Georgetown Law (): |
To enroll in non-degree courses at the Georgetown Law, you must hold an entry visa status that allows part-time study in the United States. Some entry visa types allow part-time or non-degree coursework and others do not. E.g., G-4 and H1B permit enrollment while a B-1/B-2 status does not. Non-degree applicants who hold other entry visa status can phone or email the Visa Coordinator for clarification prior to submitting a non-degree application to the Office of the Registrar. |
È òàê äàëåå. Íàéäè õîòÿ áû îäèí óíèâåð, êîòîðûé ïðèíÿë áû ÷åëîâåêà íà H1B íà degree program. |
À ðàçâå Àíäðþõà íå â óíèâåðå ó÷èòñÿ è îäíîâðåìåííî íà H1-B ñèäèò?
È åùå ÿ çíàþ, ó íàñ åñòü äåâóøêà íà ðàáîòå, ó êîòîðîé H1-B è îíà ãîòîâèòñÿ ïîñòóïèòü â óíèâåð. _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 20, 2009 3:46pm : |
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Slava (): |
À ðàçâå Àíäðþõà íå â óíèâåðå ó÷èòñÿ è îäíîâðåìåííî íà H1-B ñèäèò? |
 ñâîå âðåìÿ ÿ çàäàâàë òàêîé âîïðîñ student advisor ñâîåãî óíèâåðà, îíà ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ìîæíî. Ïåðåïðîâåðÿòü ÿ íå ïåðåïðîâåðÿë, ïîýòîìó, ÷åñòíî ãîâîðÿ, íå íà ÷òî îïåðåòüñÿ, ÷òîáû óòâåðæäàòü, ÷òî ìîæíî èëè íåëüçÿ. Çíàþ òîëüêî íåñêîëüêî ëþäåé, êòî ïîëó÷àåò Master's íà H1 â ðàçíûõ óíèâåðñèòåòàõ.
Ìíå, ñîáñòâåííî, íå òàê âàæíî - íàäîåëî óæå ïëÿñàòü ïîä äóäêó USÑIS Ýòà ó÷åáà, êîòîðóþ ÿ óæå ïðàêòè÷åñêè çàêîí÷èë, äàëà ìíå ãîðàçäî áîëüøå, ÷åì âíóòðåííåå ñïîêîéñòâèå î òîì, ÷òî íå íàðóøèë êàêîé-òî èììèãðàöèîííûé çàêîí. Ïîøëè îíè ê ÷åðòÿì. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 20, 2009 4:20pm : |
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Andrew (): |
 ñâîå âðåìÿ ÿ çàäàâàë òàêîé âîïðîñ student advisor ñâîåãî óíèâåðà, îíà ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ìîæíî. Ïåðåïðîâåðÿòü ÿ íå ïåðåïðîâåðÿë, ïîýòîìó, ÷åñòíî ãîâîðÿ, íå íà ÷òî îïåðåòüñÿ, ÷òîáû óòâåðæäàòü, ÷òî ìîæíî èëè íåëüçÿ. Çíàþ òîëüêî íåñêîëüêî ëþäåé, êòî ïîëó÷àåò Master's íà H1 â ðàçíûõ óíèâåðñèòåòàõ. |
Íó ðàç ìîæíî çíà÷èò ìîæíî. Ãîòîâ ïðèçíàòü ÷òî áûë íåïðàâ. _________________
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.03.2008 : 1231
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: , 20, 2009 4:42pm : |
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Andrew (): |
 ñâîå âðåìÿ ÿ çàäàâàë òàêîé âîïðîñ student advisor ñâîåãî óíèâåðà, îíà ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ìîæíî. |
Îíà ïðàâà. È h4 ìîæíî. |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 20, 2009 6:49pm : |
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Andrew (): |
Ýòà ó÷åáà, êîòîðóþ ÿ óæå ïðàêòè÷åñêè çàêîí÷èë, äàëà ìíå ãîðàçäî áîëüøå, ÷åì âíóòðåííåå ñïîêîéñòâèå î òîì, ÷òî íå íàðóøèë êàêîé-òî èììèãðàöèîííûé çàêîí. Ïîøëè îíè ê ÷åðòÿì. |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 20, 2009 6:50pm : |
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Hashish (): |
Andrew (): |
 ñâîå âðåìÿ ÿ çàäàâàë òàêîé âîïðîñ student advisor ñâîåãî óíèâåðà, îíà ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ìîæíî. |
Îíà ïðàâà. È h4 ìîæíî. |
×èòàë äíåâíèê îäíîé äåâóøêè. Ó íåå ìóæ-ïðîãðàììèñò. À îíà ñèäåëà-ñèäåëà äîìà íà H4, äà è ïîøëà ó÷èòüñÿ. Âûó÷èëàñü íà "ñåðâèñ è òóðèçì", ïîøëà âîëîíòåðèòü, à ïîòîì òîæå íà H1-B óñòðîèëàñü, êàæåòñÿ. Èëè óæå ê òîìó âðåìåíè GC áûëà - íå ïîìíþ. |
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SystemChaos Íîâè÷îê
: 27.10.2009 : 30
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: , 20, 2009 8:54pm : |
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Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ÷òî ìîæíî? Çíà÷èò ïî ýòèì äâóì âèçàì H1-B èëè H4 ÿ êàê ïîíÿë ìîãó ó÷èòüñÿ è ïîëó÷àòü ñòåïåíü è îäíîâðåìåííî ðàáîòàòü ñòîëüêî ñêîëüêî ÿ ìîãó, ÷èñòî èñõîäÿ èç âîçìîæíîñòåé ñâîåãî îðãàíèçìà,)))? Ïîäñêàæèòå òîãäà ïîæàëóéñòà ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü: ñ êàêîé-ëèáî êîìïàíèè, êîòîðàÿ ýòèì çàíèìàåòñÿ èëè ñàìîìó âñ¸ ýòî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü. Áóäó ðàä ëþáîìó ñîâåòó. Ëþáàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ äà¸ò ìíå ïèùó äëÿ ðàçìûøëåíèÿ è ïî÷âó äëÿ êîíêðåòíûõ äåéñòâèé))))
Ñïàñèáî Âñåì îãðîìíîå!!! _________________ I love music! |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 20, 2009 11:08pm : |
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SystemChaos (): |
Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ÷òî ìîæíî? Çíà÷èò ïî ýòèì äâóì âèçàì H1-B èëè H4 ÿ êàê ïîíÿë ìîãó ó÷èòüñÿ è ïîëó÷àòü ñòåïåíü è îäíîâðåìåííî ðàáîòàòü ñòîëüêî ñêîëüêî ÿ ìîãó, ÷èñòî èñõîäÿ èç âîçìîæíîñòåé ñâîåãî îðãàíèçìà,)))? Ïîäñêàæèòå òîãäà ïîæàëóéñòà ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü: ñ êàêîé-ëèáî êîìïàíèè, êîòîðàÿ ýòèì çàíèìàåòñÿ èëè ñàìîìó âñ¸ ýòî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü. Áóäó ðàä ëþáîìó ñîâåòó. Ëþáàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ äà¸ò ìíå ïèùó äëÿ ðàçìûøëåíèÿ è ïî÷âó äëÿ êîíêðåòíûõ äåéñòâèé))))
Ñïàñèáî Âñåì îãðîìíîå!!! |
Òîëüêî ôèøêà â òîì, ÷òî íà H1-B ðàáîòàòü íàäî ìíîãî (íå 2 òàì èëè 4 ÷àñà). Ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, íà ó÷åáó îñòàíåòñÿ ìàëî âðåìåíè è ñèë. Ïîýòîìó, òàêîå âûïîëíèòü ñëîæíî, õîòÿ è âîçìîæíî (ãëÿäÿ íà Àíäðåÿ ).
Ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü... ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü... íàâåðíîå, ñ ïîèñêà ðàáîòû. ß íå ñèë¸í â äåòàëÿõ è ïîäðîáíîñòÿõ. Íî, íàâåðíîå, íàäî íàéòè ñàéòû ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèå è ñìîòðåòü âàêàíñèè, à òàêæå ðàññûëàòü ðåçþìå. Ðåçþìå ñîñòàâèòü ãðàìîòíî (çäåñü ìîãóò ïîìî÷ü êîìïàíèè, â îñòàëüíîì, íå äóìàþ, ÷òî ñòîèò èì ïëàòèòü íåïîíÿòíî çà ÷òî). Íî ñ ðåçþìå ìîãóò ïîìî÷ü è íà ôîðóìå (ïðè óñëîâèè, ÷òî íàäî áóäåò ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî âñå-òàêè äåëàòü è âíèêàòü). Ïîäãîòîâèòüñÿ ê âîçìîæíîñòè òåëåôîííîãî èíòåðâüþ íà àíãëèéñêîì ÿçûêå.
Âîîáùå, ÷òîáû ñåé÷àñ ïîëó÷èòü H1-B, íàäî íå ïðîñòî áûòü ñïåöèàëèñòîì ñ àíãëèéñêèì ÿçûêîì, íàäî áûòü ðåäêèì è âîñòðåáîâàíûì äëÿ àìåðèêàíñêîãî ðûíêà òðóäà ñïåöèàëèñòîì, èíà÷å îíè ïðîñòî âîçüìóò ìåñòíîãî.
Íó à íàéäÿ ðàáîòó, äàëüøå - ýòî óæå äåëî òåõíèêè, õîòü è õëîïîòû. À ó÷åáó, ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ëó÷øå ïðèñìàòðèâàòü óæå òàì, îáóñòðîèâøèñü è ðàçîáðàâøèñü ñ ðàáîòîé.
Òàêîå âîò ÈÌÕÎ. |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.03.2008 : 1231
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Àðòåì (): |
×èòàë äíåâíèê îäíîé äåâóøêè. Ó íåå ìóæ-ïðîãðàììèñò. À îíà ñèäåëà-ñèäåëà äîìà íà H4, äà è ïîøëà ó÷èòüñÿ. Âûó÷èëàñü íà "ñåðâèñ è òóðèçì", ïîøëà âîëîíòåðèòü, à ïîòîì òîæå íà H1-B óñòðîèëàñü, êàæåòñÿ. Èëè óæå ê òîìó âðåìåíè GC áûëà - íå ïîìíþ. |
Ó ìåíÿ æåíà ó÷èëàñü 9 ìåñÿöåâ íà êóðñàõ àíãëèéñêîãî ôóëòàéì, ïîòîì âîëîíò¸ðèëà, ÷òîáû çàïîëèðîâàòü àíãëèéñêèé, ùàñ ïîñòóïàåò â ÂÓÇ. Êîëü ñêîðî íà H4 ðàáîòàòü íåëüçÿ, ñàìîå ðàçóìíîå - ïîó÷èòüñÿ, äî ÃÊ ìîæíî õîòü êàíäèäàòñêóþ çàùèòèòü. |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.03.2008 : 1231
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Àðòåì (): |
Íó à íàéäÿ ðàáîòó, äàëüøå - ýòî óæå äåëî òåõíèêè, õîòü è õëîïîòû. À ó÷åáó, ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ëó÷øå ïðèñìàòðèâàòü óæå òàì, îáóñòðîèâøèñü è ðàçîáðàâøèñü ñ ðàáîòîé. |
Îñîáåííî â øòàòå, ãäå h1b ìîãóò ïëàòèòü in-state tuition. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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SystemChaos (): |
Ïîäñêàæèòå òîãäà ïîæàëóéñòà ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü |
Íà÷àòü ñëåäóåò ñ òîãî, ÷òîáû îçíàêîìèòüñÿ ïîäðîáíåå ñ òåì, ÷òî íóæíî äëÿ ïîëó÷åíèÿ H1 è êàê âîîáùå ïðîèñõîäèò ïðîöåññ îôîðìëåíèÿ. Òàêæå, ïîíÿòü, êàêèì òðåáîâàíèÿì äîëæåí îòâå÷àòü ðàáîòîäàòåëü. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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