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: 24.10.2005
: 17

: , 25, 2005 7:46pm     : Õîðîøèå àâòîìîáèëè

Âîïðîñ â ñëåäóþùåì-êàêèå àâòî ñ÷èòàþòñÿ â ÑØÀ õîðîøèìè, ïðåñòèæíûìè è ñîëèäíûìè.
Ïðîñòî â ÑØÀ ìíîãî îòëè÷íûõ ìàøèí.
Äîìîõîçÿéêà ìîæåò ñïîêîéíî åçäèòü íà ML,IS 200,RX 300 è ò.ä
Âðîäå ýòî õîðîøèå, ïðåñòèæíûå ìàøèíû. Íî êàê ñ ýòèì îáñòîÿò äåëà òàì? Àìåðèêàíöû ñ÷èòàþò ýòî õîðîøèìè àâòîìîáèëÿìè èëè íåò?
Ïåðå÷èñëèòå êòî çíàåò-êàêèå àâòî â Øòàòàõ ñ÷èòàþòñÿ äåøìàíîì?
Íå ïðåñòèæíûìè è ò.ä
È êàêèå ñ÷èòàþòñÿ êðóòûìè. Òèïî-ó òåáÿ êðóòàÿ òà÷êà! Îíè ìîãóò ñêàçàòü ýòî íàïðèìåð íà WRX STI,Murano,G,E êëàññû è òàê äàëåå?
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: 11.04.2005
: 164
: Chicago, IL

: , 25, 2005 8:29pm     :

ÕåÓëûáêà Èíòåðåñíûé âîïðîñ.
Äîìîõîçÿéêè òàì åçäÿò â îñíîâíîì íà âñÿêèõ ìèíèâýíàõ, âíåäîðîæíèêàõ... Ðåæå íà áîëüøèõ êëàññè÷åñêèõ ñåäàíàõ, òèïà Crown Victoria, Lincoln Continental... Âïðî÷åì ìîæíî ÷àñòî óâèäåòü äðåâíþþ ñòàðóøåíöèþ íà îãðîìíîì ïèêàïå òèïà Ford F350 Super Heavy Duty Óëûáêà
Ïðåñòèæíûìè ó íèõ ñ÷èòàþòñÿ åâðîïåéñêèå ìàøèíû: BMW, Mercedes, Audi... Íåçàâèñèìî îò ãîäà âûïóñêà. Òàêæå ïðåñòèæíûìè ÿâëÿþòñÿ Lexus, Infinity, Acura... Íî íå òàê êàê åâðîïåéñêèå ìàðêè... Ïðåñòèæíûìè ñðåäè ìåñòíûõ ïðîèçâîäèòåëåé ñ÷èòàþòñÿ âñÿêèå Escalade, Corvette, Viper... Îñîáàÿ ñòàòüÿ - classic cars - ñòàðûå Corvettes, Mustangs, GTO... - âëàäåëåö òàêîé ìàøèíû àâòîìàòè÷åñêè çàïèñûâàåòñÿ â îáëàäàòåëÿ êðóòîé òà÷êèÓëûáêà
Îïðåäåëåííî íåïðåñòèæíûìè ñ÷èòàþòñÿ âñÿêèå äåøåâûå ìàëîëèòðàæêè Ford è Chevy.... Top "íåïðåñòèæíîñòè" âîçãëàâëÿåò Geo Metro:)
Íàñ÷åò âñÿêèõ WRX STI, EVO, RX7... - ýòè ìàøèíû exclusive åùå ñ ìîìåíòà ñõîäà ñ êîíâåéåðà è ïðåñòèæíû âî âñåì ìèðå.
Äà, íó è êîíå÷íî âñÿêèå Rolls è Bentley... íó òóò âñå ÿñíî è òàê...
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: 10.03.2003
: 2452
: USA, New York City

: , 25, 2005 9:08pm     :

Ïðåñòèæíîñòü-íå ïðèñòèæíîñòü... äóðàöêèé âîïðîñ.
Çà÷åì íóæíà êðóòàÿ òà÷êà? Âîò ÿ êóïèë ñåáå òó, êîòîðàÿ áûëà äåøåâàÿ è êîòîðàÿ ìåíÿ óñòðàèâàëà ïî âîçìîæíîñòÿì è óäîáñòâó. Êðóòàÿ ìàøèíà ýòî ïî ìîåìó òîëüêî äëÿ òåõ êîìó âíåøíèé âèä âàæíåå âñåãî îñòàëüíîãî.
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: 10.03.2003
: 4182
: at this moment Stamford CT

: , 25, 2005 9:46pm     :

White Owl ():
Ïðåñòèæíîñòü-íå ïðèñòèæíîñòü... äóðàöêèé âîïðîñ.
Çà÷åì íóæíà êðóòàÿ òà÷êà? Âîò ÿ êóïèë ñåáå òó, êîòîðàÿ áûëà äåøåâàÿ è êîòîðàÿ ìåíÿ óñòðàèâàëà ïî âîçìîæíîñòÿì è óäîáñòâó. Êðóòàÿ ìàøèíà ýòî ïî ìîåìó òîëüêî äëÿ òåõ êîìó âíåøíèé âèä âàæíåå âñåãî îñòàëüíîãî.

Íó íå ñêàæè.  õîðîøèõ ìàøèíàõ è åçäèòü óäîáíî. Îñîáåííî åñëè ïîñ÷èòàòü ñêîëüî âðåìåíè òâîåé æèçíè òàì ïðîõîäèò.

Ïðîñòîé ïðèìåð.
Ó ìåíÿ Honda CR-V, ó ìîåé çíàêîìîé Audi-A6.
Åçäà îòëè÷àåòñÿ êàê íåáî è çåìëÿ. Ó ìåíÿ ìàøèíà êîãäà åäåò ïóñòàåò áóìêàåì íà âñåõ êî÷êàõ (ïîòîìó êàê SUV è ïîäâåñêà ðàñ÷èòàíà íà íåõèëóþ çàãðóçêó). Audi ïëûâåò ïî äîðîãå è ïàññàæèðû çàñûïàþò â ìàøèíå ÷åðå 20 ìèíóò. Ó äàæå íà ñêîðîñòè 90 ìèëü â ÷àñ âíóòðè âîîáùå ïî÷òè íè çâóêà èçâíå.
ß âîò äóìàþ êîãäà çàêîí÷èòñÿ ëèçèíã ìîåé ìàøèíû êóïëþ ñåáå Audi A8L 3-4õ ëåò øòóê çà 25 èëè ìåíüøå. Òà âîîáùå ïëàâàåò.
Åñëè õîðîøèìè è êà÷åñòâåííûìè ñ÷èòàþòñÿ Lexus & Acura.

À âîò Ìåðñåäåñ S êëàññà âñå åùå ïîêóïàþò ïî ñòàðîé ïðèâû÷êè õîòÿ ýòî ñ÷èòàåòñÿ ïî÷òè ñàìàÿ íåíàäåæíàÿ ìàøèíà.  îñíîâíîãî èç-çà ïåðåãðóæåííîñòè ýëåêòðîíèêîé. Òàê æå è BMW óïàëà â êà÷åñòâå.
Íó è êîíå÷íî ïðåñòèæíûå ýòî Ferrari, Bentley, Rolls-Roys, Maseratti. Ó íàñ ñîñåäíèé ãîðîä ãäå âñå óñïåøíûå ëþäè æèâóò, òàê òàì âñå òàêèå ñàëîíû åñòü. È ó íàñ ïî ãîðîäó ÿ âèäåë åçäÿò ïàðà Ferrari è åùå îäèí Bentley.
Òà ÷òî Murano, Ýòî êîòîðûé Nissan? Òàê ýòî ôèãíÿ. Îáû÷íàÿ ïîòðåáèòåëüñêàÿ ìàøèíà.
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: 24.10.2005
: 17

: , 25, 2005 10:34pm     :

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Ïðåñòèæíîñòü-íå ïðèñòèæíîñòü... äóðàöêèé âîïðîñ.
Çà÷åì íóæíà êðóòàÿ òà÷êà? Âîò ÿ êóïèë ñåáå òó, êîòîðàÿ áûëà äåøåâàÿ è êîòîðàÿ ìåíÿ óñòðàèâàëà ïî âîçìîæíîñòÿì è óäîáñòâó. Êðóòàÿ ìàøèíà ýòî ïî ìîåìó òîëüêî äëÿ òåõ êîìó âíåøíèé âèä âàæíåå âñåãî îñòàëüíîãî.

Íó êîíå÷íî äëÿ âèäà. Êîíå÷íî ëó÷øå åçäèòü íà ñòàðîé, äðåáåçæàùåé Civic , ÷åì íà íîâîé BMW 5...
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: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 25, 2005 10:37pm     :

Êàê ãîâîðèòñÿ, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder... ×òî òàêîå êðóòàÿ ìàøèíà äëÿ highschooler'a, Yale graduate, 50-ëåòíåãî CEO êðóïíîé êîìïàíèè, äîìîõîçÿéêè, 35-ëåòíåãî èíæåíåðà - áóäåò 5 ðàçíûõ (àáñîëþòíî!) ìàøèí.

Áûëè áû ó ìåíÿ äåíüãè - êóïèë áû ñåáå BMW Z4.
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: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 26, 2005 12:23am     :

White Owl ():
Ïðåñòèæíîñòü-íå ïðèñòèæíîñòü... äóðàöêèé âîïðîñ.
Çà÷åì íóæíà êðóòàÿ òà÷êà? Âîò ÿ êóïèë ñåáå òó, êîòîðàÿ áûëà äåøåâàÿ è êîòîðàÿ ìåíÿ óñòðàèâàëà ïî âîçìîæíîñòÿì è óäîáñòâó. Êðóòàÿ ìàøèíà ýòî ïî ìîåìó òîëüêî äëÿ òåõ êîìó âíåøíèé âèä âàæíåå âñåãî îñòàëüíîãî.

Òû ïðîñòî îòíîñèøüñÿ ê ýòîìó ñ ïðàêòè÷íîé ñòîðîíû, íî åñòü íå÷íî áîëüøåå - ëþáîâü ê àâòîìîáèëþ, ìå÷òà.

Ìîæíî íîñèòü ÷àñû çà $10 è íèêîãäà íå ïîêóïàòü Rolex. Íî ñ Rolex ê òåáå ñîâñåì ïî äðóãîìó áóäóò îòíîñèòüñÿ íà ðàçëè÷íûõ äåëîâûõ ïåðåãîâîðàõ.

Òîæå è ñ ìàøèíîé. Ìíå áû õîòåëîñü êàòàòüñÿ íà ýêñêëþçèâå, íà êîòîðûé âñå ïàëüöåì ïîêàçûâàòü áóäóò, à ïîñëå ðàññêàçûâàòü ñâîèì äðóçüÿì ñ îòâèñøåé ÷åëþñòüþ î òîì, êàêóþ âèäåëè ñåãîäíÿ ìàøèíó.
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: 13.11.2003
: 1539
: NC, USA

: , 26, 2005 12:43am     :

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

(c) Janis Joplin

IMHO â ïðîñòîíàðîäüå äî ñèõ ïîð Mercedes è BMW ñ÷èòàþòñÿ ïðèçíàêîì òîãî, ÷òî "æèçíü óäàëàñü". Âñå-òàêè îòäåë ìàðêåòèíãà ó íèõ íå çðÿ çàðïëàòó ïîëó÷àåò - ïðî Jaguar âîí ïåñåí íå ïèøóò...

Cadillac ïîïóëÿðåí ó íåãðîâ è óãîíùèêîâ, à òàêæå, âìåñòå ñ Lincoln (íàâîðî÷åííûé Ford) ó ñòàðøåãî ïîêîëåíèÿ, êîòîðîå "âûáèðàåò àìåðèêàíñêèé òîâàð".

Audi, ïî-ìîåìó, ïðîñòî ìàëî êòî çíàåò (íèêîãäà íå ñëûøàëà íè îò êîãî ìå÷òàòåëüíîãî "âîò ÿ êóïèë áû ñåáå Audi"). Lexus, Infinity è Acura, íàñêîëüêî ÿ çàìåòèëà, îñîáî ïðåñòèæíûìè íå ñ÷èòàþòñÿ, íå âçèðàÿ íà ìîùíûé öåííèê.  îñíîâíîì ëþáèòåëè ïðåñòèæà êðóòÿò íîñîì, ÷òî, ìîë, Lexus - ýòî âñåãî ëèøü íàâîðî÷åííàÿ Toyota.

×òî êàñàåòñÿ ìàëîïðåñòèæíûõ ìàøèí, òî âîò áûë òàêîé [url=http://www.edmunds.com/used/1997/geo/metro/47/photos.html?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..9.Geo*]Geo Metro[/url] - ñì. êîìåäèþ Big Troubles.
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: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 26, 2005 1:53am     :

Andrew ():
Íî ñ Rolex ê òåáå ñîâñåì ïî äðóãîìó áóäóò îòíîñèòüñÿ íà ðàçëè÷íûõ äåëîâûõ ïåðåãîâîðàõ.


Òû çàáûë óïîìÿíóòü - â Ðîññèè.
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Andrew
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: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 26, 2005 2:01am     :

Debaser ():
Òû çàáûë óïîìÿíóòü - â Ðîññèè.

Óâåðåí - è â Øòàòàõ òîæå. È õîòü ãäå åùå.

Óæå âðîäå ðàññêàçûâàë, êàê ïî Ò âèäåð ðåïîðòàæ: Îäèí è òîò æå ÷åëîâåê ïîäúåçæàë ê êàôå íà ãíèëîì ñòàðîì àâòî â îáîðâàííûõ äæèíñàõ è ò. ä. Ïîòîì ýòîò æå ÷åëîâåê ïîäêàòûâàë íà Bentley â êîñòþìå Âåðñà÷å, î÷êàõ Àðìàíè è ò. ä. Ïîñëå ýòîãî ïîêàçûâàëè ðåàêöèþ äàì, ñèäÿùèõ çà îäíèì èç ñòîëèêîâ - ñëîâàìè ýòî íå ïåðåäàòü Óëûáêà

Ýòî áûë àìåðèêàíñêèé ðåïîðòàæ.
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: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 26, 2005 2:07am     :

Andrew ():
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Òû çàáûë óïîìÿíóòü - â Ðîññèè.

Óâåðåí - è â Øòàòàõ òîæå. È õîòü ãäå åùå.

Óæå âðîäå ðàññêàçûâàë, êàê ïî Ò âèäåð ðåïîðòàæ: Îäèí è òîò æå ÷åëîâåê ïîäúåçæàë ê êàôå íà ãíèëîì ñòàðîì àâòî â îáîðâàííûõ äæèíñàõ è ò. ä. Ïîòîì ýòîò æå ÷åëîâåê ïîäêàòûâàë íà Bentley â êîñòþìå Âåðñà÷å, î÷êàõ Àðìàíè è ò. ä. Ïîñëå ýòîãî ïîêàçûâàëè ðåàêöèþ äàì, ñèäÿùèõ çà îäíèì èç ñòîëèêîâ - ñëîâàìè ýòî íå ïåðåäàòü Óëûáêà

Ýòî áûë àìåðèêàíñêèé ðåïîðòàæ.

Íà ñ÷åò äàì â êàôå - íå ñîìíåâàþñü, à âîò ïî ïîâîäó áèçíåñà - íå ñîãëàøóñü. Êàê òî äàæå ñòðàííî ñðàâíèâàòü áèçíåñìåíîâ ñ äåâóøêàìè èç êàôå.
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Andrew
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: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 26, 2005 2:14am     :

Debaser ():
Íà ñ÷åò äàì â êàôå - íå ñîìíåâàþñü, à âîò ïî ïîâîäó áèçíåñà - íå ñîãëàøóñü. Êàê òî äàæå ñòðàííî ñðàâíèâàòü áèçíåñìåíîâ ñ äåâóøêàìè èç êàôå.

Ñîãëàñåí...

Íó ñàì ïîñòàâü ñåáÿ íà ìåñòî ñâîåãî ïîòåíöèàëüíîãî äåëîâîãî ïàðòíåðà: ïðè óñëîâèè ïðîôåññèîíàëèçìà, ýðóäèðîâàííîñòè è çíàíèÿ äåëà - òàêèå àòðèáóòû êàê Rolex è, ê ïðèìåðó, äîðîãàÿ ðó÷êà - òîëüêî äîáàâëÿþò óâåðåííîñòè â òîì, ÷òî ÷åëîâåê íå ïðîñòî òàê ñâîé õëåá êóøàåò.

ß íå ãîâîðþ, ÷òî òîëüêî ïî ýòîìó ìîæíî è íóæíî ñóäèòü î íåì, êàê î ïðîôåññèîíàëå.
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: 24.10.2005
: 17

: , 26, 2005 4:59am     :

Ò.å , åñëè ÿ ïðàâèëüíî âàñ ïîíÿë , òî öåíà êàê òàêîâàÿ çíà÷åíèÿ íå èìååò?
Ðàçíèöà ëèøü â ìåñòå ãäå ìàøèíà ïðîèçâåäåíà?
À êàê îáñòîÿò äåëà â ÑØÀ ñ òàêèìè ìàðêàìè ,êàê Peugeot è Alfa Romeo?
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: 11.04.2005
: 164
: Chicago, IL

: , 26, 2005 5:20am     :

Åâãåíèé ():
À êàê îáñòîÿò äåëà â ÑØÀ ñ òàêèìè ìàðêàìè ,êàê Peugeot è Alfa Romeo?

Íå âèäåë òàì íè òîé, íè äðóãîé...Óëûáêà Íàñêîëüêî ÿ çíàþ, îíè òóäà è íå ïîñòàâëÿëèñü íèêîãäà.
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: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 26, 2005 5:27am     :

Åâãåíèé ():
Ò.å , åñëè ÿ ïðàâèëüíî âàñ ïîíÿë , òî öåíà êàê òàêîâàÿ çíà÷åíèÿ íå èìååò?

Íåïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë, èìååò!
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À êàê îáñòîÿò äåëà â ÑØÀ ñ òàêèìè ìàðêàìè ,êàê Peugeot è Alfa Romeo?

Íèêàê, îôèöèàëüíî íå çàâîçèëè, ñåðûé èìïîðò åñòü. Âîò Peugeot ïðîäàþò íà äàííûé ìîìåíò 4 øòóêè â Àìåðèêå:
http://cars.com/go/search/fs_search_results.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&cid=&dlid=&dgid=&amid=&cname=&zc=44124&makeid=57&modelid=&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_57_%7CN-N%7CR-10000%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-47906&aff=national&aff=national
Ñ Alfa Romeo - ïîëó÷øå - 60 øòóê åñòü Ïîäêàëûâàþ
http://cars.com/go/search/fs_search_results.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&cid=&dlid=&dgid=&amid=&cname=&zc=44124&makeid=2&modelid=&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_2_%7CN-N%7CR-10000%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-47906&aff=national&aff=national
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: 10.03.2003
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: , 26, 2005 12:49pm     :

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Åâãåíèé ():
Ò.å , åñëè ÿ ïðàâèëüíî âàñ ïîíÿë , òî öåíà êàê òàêîâàÿ çíà÷åíèÿ íå èìååò?

Íåïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë, èìååò!

Îñîáåííî äëÿ ÷åðíûõ. Ó íèõ òèïà ñàìûå íàâîðî÷åííûå åçäÿò íà Ìåðñåäåñàõ. Òå êòî ïîïðîùå íà Êàäèëëàêàõ...

Ó èçïàíöåâ ñâîÿ êóëüòóðàÓëûáêà êóïèòü ìàøèíó çà øòóêó áàêñîâ è íàâåñèòü íà íåå ïîáðÿêóøåê åùå íà 5 øòóê.

P.S. Debaser Íó òû ÷òî-ëè ññûëêè ñîêðàùàé... À òî ó ìåíÿ â 19inch ýêðàí íå âëàçèò Äóìàþ
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Andrew
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: 01.03.2003
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: , 26, 2005 1:00pm     :

Slava ():
Ó èçïàíöåâ ñâîÿ êóëüòóðàÓëûáêà êóïèòü ìàøèíó çà øòóêó áàêñîâ è íàâåñèòü íà íåå ïîáðÿêóøåê åùå íà 5 øòóê.

Òî÷íî! Óëûáêà Âîò: http://gerasimov.org/photoalbum/afterwork2/
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: 10.03.2003
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: , 26, 2005 1:08pm     :

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Ó èçïàíöåâ ñâîÿ êóëüòóðàÓëûáêà êóïèòü ìàøèíó çà øòóêó áàêñîâ è íàâåñèòü íà íåå ïîáðÿêóøåê åùå íà 5 øòóê.

Òî÷íî! Óëûáêà Âîò: http://gerasimov.org/photoalbum/afterwork2/

Íå... ýòî ñîâñåì äðóãèå òà÷êè. Êîãäà ñòàâÿò ýòè ñèñòåìû íà ñæèæåííîì ãàçå ýòî óæå íåìàëî. + óìåíüøèòü ïîäâåñêó + íàñòðîéêè äâèãàòåëñÿ.

ß ãîâîðèë ïðî óáèòûé Civic íà êîòîðûé ïîñòàâèëè ïåðäÿùèé ãëóùèòåëü + ëèòûå äèñêè è â äîðîãó çà äåôô÷åíêàìè
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: 28.03.2003
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: , 26, 2005 1:10pm     :

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P.S. Debaser Íó òû ÷òî-ëè ññûëêè ñîêðàùàé... À òî ó ìåíÿ â 19inch ýêðàí íå âëàçèò Äóìàþ

Äûê ýòî... ëåíü Ïîäêàëûâàþ
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: 10.03.2003
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: , 26, 2005 1:40pm     :

Slava ():
Ó ìåíÿ Honda CR-V, ó ìîåé çíàêîìîé Audi-A6.
Åçäà îòëè÷àåòñÿ êàê íåáî è çåìëÿ.

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