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Masha Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 18.01.2004 : 464 : Izhevsk, Russia
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: , 11, 2006 3:43pm : Àíîðåêñèÿ |
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Êòî-íèáóäü ñòàëêèâàëñÿ ñ ýòîé áîëåçíüþ? Êàêîâû ïåðâîíà÷àëüíûå ñèìïòîìû? Ïðîñìîòðåëà êó÷ó ðîññèéñêèõ ñàéòîâ, íî íå íàøëà îòâåò íà ñâîé âîïðîñ.
Çíàþ, ÷òî â Àìåðèêå ýòîò âîïðîñ áîëåå àêòóàëåí, ÷åì â Ðîññèè. Ìîæåò êòî-íèáóäü çíàåò ðåàëüíûå èñòîðèè î òîì, êàê ó êîãî-òî áûëà ýòà áîëåçíü è ê ÷åìó ýòî ïðèâåëî? |
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Oleg_Msk Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 30.09.2004 : 1000
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: , 11, 2006 3:45pm : Re: Àíîðåêñèÿ |
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Masha (): |
Êòî-íèáóäü ñòàëêèâàëñÿ ñ ýòîé áîëåçíüþ? Êàêîâû ïåðâîíà÷àëüíûå ñèìïòîìû? Ïðîñìîòðåëà êó÷ó ðîññèéñêèõ ñàéòîâ, íî íå íàøëà îòâåò íà ñâîé âîïðîñ.
Çíàþ, ÷òî â Àìåðèêå ýòîò âîïðîñ áîëåå àêòóàëåí, ÷åì â Ðîññèè. Ìîæåò êòî-íèáóäü çíàåò ðåàëüíûå èñòîðèè î òîì, êàê ó êîãî-òî áûëà ýòà áîëåçíü è ê ÷åìó ýòî ïðèâåëî? |
Íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî - â Àìåðèêå íàîáîðîò ñòðàäàþò îò èçáûòî÷íîãî âåñà À àíîðåêñèÿ ýòî ñêîðåå â ñòðàíàõ òðåòüåãî ìèðà |
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Genady Íîâè÷îê
: 28.01.2004 : 19 : Western Mass,USA
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: , 11, 2006 4:10pm : |
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Hope you can read English.
Plenty info about it
Symptoms of Anorexia?
There are many symptoms for anorexia, some individuals may not experience all of they symptoms. The symptoms include: Body weight that is inconsistent with age, build and height (usually 15% below normal weight).
Some other symptom are:
Loss of at least 3 consecutive menstrual periods (in women).
Not wanting or refusing to eat in public.
Other symptoms are: anxiety, weakness, brittle skin, shortness of breath, obsessiveness about calorie intake
Link:http://www.mamashealth.com/anorexia.asp
and more Google search title
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ANOREXIA&btnG=Google+Search |
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Dan Íîâè÷îê
: 20.05.2006 : 27 : USA, WA
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: , 11, 2006 8:13pm : Re: Àíîðåêñèÿ |
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Masha (): |
Êòî-íèáóäü ñòàëêèâàëñÿ ñ ýòîé áîëåçíüþ? Êàêîâû ïåðâîíà÷àëüíûå ñèìïòîìû? Ïðîñìîòðåëà êó÷ó ðîññèéñêèõ ñàéòîâ, íî íå íàøëà îòâåò íà ñâîé âîïðîñ.
Çíàþ, ÷òî â Àìåðèêå ýòîò âîïðîñ áîëåå àêòóàëåí, ÷åì â Ðîññèè. Ìîæåò êòî-íèáóäü çíàåò ðåàëüíûå èñòîðèè î òîì, êàê ó êîãî-òî áûëà ýòà áîëåçíü è ê ÷åìó ýòî ïðèâåëî? |
Ñëûøàë òîæå ÷òî-òî.
Êàæåòñÿ ëåãêî èçëå÷èâàåòñÿ ïåðååçäîì â Ðîññèþ. _________________ Ëó÷øå ÿ áû íå çíàë ÷òî-òàêîå doritos.. |
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TONY Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 03.08.2006 : 149 : ã.Ìîñêâà
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: , 11, 2006 10:09pm : |
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â àìåðèêå êñòàòè åñòü òàêàÿ ïðîáëåìà, îñîáåííî ñðåäè çâåçä êèíî è øîó-áèçíåñà è îáû÷íûå ëþäè ãëÿäÿ íà çâåçä òîæå íà÷èíàþò ñåáÿ òàê èñòåçàòü ,â öåëè ïîõóäåíèÿ è íå çàìå÷àþò êàê çàáîëåâàþò ýòîé áîëåçíüåé , îòêàçûâàÿñü îò åäû. _________________ æèâè ìå÷òîé.... |
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Prodigy Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 01.05.2005 : 152 : OH, USA
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: , 12, 2006 1:45am : Re: Àíîðåêñèÿ |
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Masha (): |
Êòî-íèáóäü ñòàëêèâàëñÿ ñ ýòîé áîëåçíüþ? Êàêîâû ïåðâîíà÷àëüíûå ñèìïòîìû? Ïðîñìîòðåëà êó÷ó ðîññèéñêèõ ñàéòîâ, íî íå íàøëà îòâåò íà ñâîé âîïðîñ.
Çíàþ, ÷òî â Àìåðèêå ýòîò âîïðîñ áîëåå àêòóàëåí, ÷åì â Ðîññèè. Ìîæåò êòî-íèáóäü çíàåò ðåàëüíûå èñòîðèè î òîì, êàê ó êîãî-òî áûëà ýòà áîëåçíü è ê ÷åìó ýòî ïðèâåëî? |
Ñëûøàë ÷òî ìíîãèå äåâóøêè êîòîðûå ãðåçèëè ñòàòü Ñóïåðìîäåëÿìè çàáîëåâàþò äàííîé áîëåçíüþ! Îíè êîìïëåêñóþò, èì ïîñòîÿííî êàæåòñÿ ÷òî îíè íå äîñòàòî÷íî ñòðîéíû è ïîýòîìó ó íèõ ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ êîìïëåêñ "Ïîëíîòû" (ïðîøó èñïðàâèòü åñëè îøèáñÿ! Ñïàñèáî!), ê ñîæàëåíèþ ìíîãèõ ýòî ïðèâîäèò ê Ãðóñòíîìó êîíöó!
Âîò áîëåå ïîäðîáíî: http://www.krugosvet.ru/articles/33/1003380/1003380a1.htm
P.S. Íà äàííóþ òåìó ñíÿòî áîëüøîå êîëè÷åñòâî äîêóìåíòàëüíûõ ôèëüìîâ è ïðîãðàìì!
Òû îòëè÷íî âûãëÿäèøü! Âûáðîñü ýòó òåìó èç ãîëîâû, à ëó÷øå âîîáùå çàáóäü êàê îíà íàçûâàåòñÿ! _________________ Ñëàâåí ÁÈËÈ×: " ÝÒÎÉ ÆÈÇÍÈ ÐÀÑÑ×ÈÒÛÂÀÒÜ ÍÓÆÍÎ ÒÎËÜÊÎ ÍÀ ÑÅÁß" |
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anuta Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 02.11.2005 : 237 : Irkutsk-Daytona Beach-Philadelphia
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: , 12, 2006 2:21am : Re: Àíîðåêñèÿ |
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[quote="Masha"]Êòî-íèáóäü ñòàëêèâàëñÿ ñ ýòîé áîëåçíüþ? Êàêîâû ïåðâîíà÷àëüíûå ñèìïòîìû? Ïðîñìîòðåëà êó÷ó ðîññèéñêèõ ñàéòîâ, íî íå íàøëà îòâåò íà ñâîé âîïðîñ.
Àíîðåêñèÿ çäåñü äåéñòâèòåëüíî ðàñïðîñòðàíåíà, îñîáåííî ñðåäè òèíåéäæåðîê. Ó ìåíÿ â êàæäîì êëàññå, äà åñòü õîòü îäíà äåâî÷êà, êîòîðàÿ ïî âèäó íàõîäèòñÿ íà ãðàíè êðàéíåãî èñòîùåíèÿ.
Åñëè äîëãî îòêàçûâàòüñÿ îò åäû, òî íàñòóïàåò îòâðàùåíèå ê íåé, ãëàâíàÿ ïðîáëåìà àíîðåêñèêîâ â òîì, ÷òî èì òÿæåëî åñòü/ ãëîòàòü ïèùó. Íó è ñîîòâåòñòâåííî åñëè åñòü î÷åíü ìàëî èëè âîîáùå íå åñòü, òî âñå îðãàíû æèçíåäåÿòåëüíîñòè ïðèõîäÿò â óïàäîê, à òàì è äî ñìåðòè íåäàëåêî. |
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Masha Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 18.01.2004 : 464 : Izhevsk, Russia
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: , 12, 2006 6:03am : Re: Àíîðåêñèÿ |
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Íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî - â Àìåðèêå íàîáîðîò ñòðàäàþò îò èçáûòî÷íîãî âåñà À àíîðåêñèÿ ýòî ñêîðåå â ñòðàíàõ òðåòüåãî ìèðà |
 ñòðàíàõ òðåòüåãî ìèðà - ãîëîä, à íå àíîðåêñèÿ
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Òû îòëè÷íî âûãëÿäèøü! Âûáðîñü ýòó òåìó èç ãîëîâû, à ëó÷øå âîîáùå çàáóäü êàê îíà íàçûâàåòñÿ! |
×òî ïî àâàòàðå âñþ ôèãóðó âèäíî? Ýêñòðàñåíñ
Ó ìåíÿ íåò ïðîáëåì ñ àíîðåêñèåé, ïðîñòî ÿ çàèíòåðåñîâàëàñü èñòîðèÿìè ðåàëüíûõ ëþäåé. Êàê ýòî ïðîèñõîäèò, ñ ÷åãî íà÷èíàåòñÿ, è ê ÷åìó ïðèâîäèò. |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 12, 2006 9:29am : Re: Àíîðåêñèÿ |
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Oleg_Msk (): |
Íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî - â Àìåðèêå íàîáîðîò ñòðàäàþò îò èçáûòî÷íîãî âåñà À àíîðåêñèÿ ýòî ñêîðåå â ñòðàíàõ òðåòüåãî ìèðà |
 ñòðàíàõ òðåòüåãî ìèðà - ãîëîä, à íå àíîðåêñèÿ
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Ýòî áëèçêèå ïîíÿòèÿ.
Ïî-ìîåìó, àíîðåêñèÿ - áîëåçíü áàøêè, à íå òåëà. ×åëîâåêó âñå âðåìÿ êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî îí òîëñòûé. È òàê êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî îí íå åñò, íå åñò, äà òàê ñ ãîëîäó è äîõíåò. À âîò àíîðåêñèÿ - ýòî ïðîìåæóòî÷íûé ýòàï ìåæäó "êàæåòñÿ" è "äîõíåò".
Åñëè ÷åëîâåê åñò, à ó íåãî íå óñâàèâàåòñÿ, è îí õóäååò äî êîñòåé, òî ýòî íå àíîðåêñèÿ, à, óâû, ïîñëåäñòâèÿ äðóãèõ ñåðüåçíûõ áîëåçíåé. |
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Oleg_Msk Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 30.09.2004 : 1000
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: , 12, 2006 10:33am : |
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Ìàøà, åñëè íå ñåêðåò - ÷òî èìåííî ñïîäâèãëî òåáÿ íà òàêèå "íåîá÷íûå" ìûñëè è æåëàíèÿ??? |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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: , 13, 2006 2:17am : Re: Àíîðåêñèÿ |
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Masha (): |
Êòî-íèáóäü ñòàëêèâàëñÿ ñ ýòîé áîëåçíüþ? Êàêîâû ïåðâîíà÷àëüíûå ñèìïòîìû? Ïðîñìîòðåëà êó÷ó ðîññèéñêèõ ñàéòîâ, íî íå íàøëà îòâåò íà ñâîé âîïðîñ.
Çíàþ, ÷òî â Àìåðèêå ýòîò âîïðîñ áîëåå àêòóàëåí, ÷åì â Ðîññèè. Ìîæåò êòî-íèáóäü çíàåò ðåàëüíûå èñòîðèè î òîì, êàê ó êîãî-òî áûëà ýòà áîëåçíü è ê ÷åìó ýòî ïðèâåëî? |
Ëè÷íî, ñëàâà áîãó, ñòàëêèâàòüñÿ ñ ýòèì íå ïðèõîäèëîñü, à òàê - äîñòàòî÷íî âêëþ÷èòü òåëåâèçîð. Íåäàâíèé ïðèìåð: Íèêîëü Ðè÷è (Nicole Richie), äî÷êà ïåâöà Ëàéîíåëà Ðè÷è. Ãîäà äâà òîìó íàçàä áûëà íîðìàëüíàÿ áàáà, ñåé÷àñ îñòàëèñü êîæà äà êîñòè, ñòðàøíî ñìîòðåòü íà íåå.
Êàê ïðàâèëüíî çàìå÷åíî â Wikipedia, àíîðåêñèåé íàçûâàåòñÿ è ñèìïòîì (ò.å. ïðîñòî âðåìåííîå îòñóòñòâèå àïïåòèòà), è ïñèõè÷åñêîå ðàññòðîéñòâî (òî, ÷òî â ïðîñòîíàðîäüå çîâåòñÿ "ýòî âñå â ãîëîâå") Anorexia Nervosa. Òàì åñòü âåñüìà íåïëîõàÿ ñòàòüÿ ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó, ãäå îïèñàíû ñèìïòîìû è äèàãíîñòèêà.
Âîïðåêè ðàñïðîñòðàíåííîìó ìíåíèþ, ÷òî ýòî ïðîñòî êàïðèçû òîï-ìîäåëåé, Anorexia Nervosa ÿâëÿåòñÿ âåñüìà ñåðüåçíûì ðàññòðîéñòâîì:
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Anorexia has the highest mortality rate of any psychiatric disorder, with approximately 10% of those who are diagnosed with the disorder eventually dying due to related causes. The suicide rate of people with anorexia is also higher than that of the general population and is thought to be the major cause of death for those with the condition. Anorexia is also considered difficult to treat. A recent review suggested that less than one-half recover fully, one-third improve, and 20% remain chronically ill. |
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Masha Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 18.01.2004 : 464 : Izhevsk, Russia
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: , 13, 2006 6:30am : |
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Oleg_Msk (): |
Ìàøà, åñëè íå ñåêðåò - ÷òî èìåííî ñïîäâèãëî òåáÿ íà òàêèå "íåîá÷íûå" ìûñëè è æåëàíèÿ??? |
Íå ñåêðåò Ó ìåíÿ íåò íè îäíîé ïîäðóãè, êîòîðàÿ áû íå óâëåêàëàñü äèåòàìè èëè äðóãèìè ìåòîäàìè âå÷íîãî ïîõóäàíèÿ. Íàäî ïðîâåñòè âîñïèòàòåëüíóþ áåñåäó, ÷òîáû ÇÎÆ íå ïåðåðîñ â áîëåçíü. Äà è ñàìîé çíàòü ïîëåçíî ðàìêè äîïóñòèìîãî.
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Íåäàâíèé ïðèìåð: Íèêîëü Ðè÷è (Nicole Richie), äî÷êà ïåâöà Ëàéîíåëà Ðè÷è. Ãîäà äâà òîìó íàçàä áûëà íîðìàëüíàÿ áàáà, ñåé÷àñ îñòàëèñü êîæà äà êîñòè, ñòðàøíî ñìîòðåòü íà íåå. |
ß âèäåëà åå â Simple Life. Ïî-ìîåìó, òàì îíà âûãëÿäèò ïðîñòî óæàñíî òîëñòîé, îñîáåííî íà ôîíå Ïýðèñ Õèëòîí. À ñåé÷àñ íàîáîðîò íðàâèòñÿ.
Êñòàòè, êîãäà ÿ ïðîøëîì ãîäó ðàáîòàëà â Victoria's Secret, îíà ê íàì çàõîäèëà. ß äàð ðå÷è ïîòåðÿëà, êîãäà åå óâèäåëà |
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TONY Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 03.08.2006 : 149 : ã.Ìîñêâà
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: , 13, 2006 7:18am : |
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à ÷òî òû òàì óâèäåëà? ÷òî òàê ìîãëî òåáÿ îøàðàøèòü? _________________ æèâè ìå÷òîé.... |
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