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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 19, 2006 8:17am : |
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Ðàçóìååòñÿ, åñëè ìåõàíèê â ÑØÀ ïîëó÷àåò íå ìåíüøå $10/÷àñ |
Ñêîðåå $20+ â ÷àñ, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå â íàøèõ êðàÿõ. |
À â íàøèõ êðàÿõ îò $25 äî $80 â ÷àñ, â çàâèñèìîñòè îò ñëîæíîñòè ðàáîòû. |
Ìîæåò, íó åãî íàôèã - ýòî ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèå... Àâòîìåõàíèêè ëó÷øå êîñìîíàâòîâ çàðàáàòûâàþò... |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 19, 2006 1:59pm : |
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Ðàçóìååòñÿ, åñëè ìåõàíèê â ÑØÀ ïîëó÷àåò íå ìåíüøå $10/÷àñ |
Ñêîðåå $20+ â ÷àñ, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå â íàøèõ êðàÿõ. |
À â íàøèõ êðàÿõ îò $25 äî $80 â ÷àñ, â çàâèñèìîñòè îò ñëîæíîñòè ðàáîòû. |
Ìîæåò, íó åãî íàôèã - ýòî ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèå... Àâòîìåõàíèêè ëó÷øå êîñìîíàâòîâ çàðàáàòûâàþò... |
Íåò, ïðîãðàììèñòîì âñå-òàêè ëó÷øå - contracting rate $100-$300/hr äëÿ íîðìàëüíîãî ïðîãðàìèñòà. Íî ýòî - âîëüíûì ïðîãðàìèñòîì (íà 1099), à íå íà full time (íà W-2), ãäå $100/÷àñ - ýòî î÷åíü êðóòî. _________________
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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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: , 19, 2006 3:07pm : |
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Debaser (): |
Íåò, ïðîãðàììèñòîì âñå-òàêè ëó÷øå - contracting rate $100-$300/hr äëÿ íîðìàëüíîãî ïðîãðàìèñòà. Íî ýòî - âîëüíûì ïðîãðàìèñòîì (íà 1099), à íå íà full time (íà W-2), ãäå $100/÷àñ - ýòî î÷åíü êðóòî. |
Õî÷ó òàêóþ ðàáîòó.... Òîëüêî íå íàõîäÿòñÿ |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 19, 2006 3:47pm : |
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Ðàçóìååòñÿ, åñëè ìåõàíèê â ÑØÀ ïîëó÷àåò íå ìåíüøå $10/÷àñ |
Ñêîðåå $20+ â ÷àñ, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå â íàøèõ êðàÿõ. |
À â íàøèõ êðàÿõ îò $25 äî $80 â ÷àñ, â çàâèñèìîñòè îò ñëîæíîñòè ðàáîòû. |
Ìîæåò, íó åãî íàôèã - ýòî ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèå... Àâòîìåõàíèêè ëó÷øå êîñìîíàâòîâ çàðàáàòûâàþò... |
Íåò, ïðîãðàììèñòîì âñå-òàêè ëó÷øå - contracting rate $100-$300/hr äëÿ íîðìàëüíîãî ïðîãðàìèñòà. Íî ýòî - âîëüíûì ïðîãðàìèñòîì (íà 1099), à íå íà full time (íà W-2), ãäå $100/÷àñ - ýòî î÷åíü êðóòî. |
Óæñ êàêîé. À ÿ äóìàë, ïðîãðàììèñòû â ÑØÀ çàðàáàòûâàþò ãäå-òî $5000 â ìåñÿö.
Ïðè÷åì, ÿ ñ÷èòàþ ýòî îòëè÷íîé çàðïëàòîé â ëþáîé òî÷êå ìèðà. |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 19, 2006 7:30pm : |
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Óæñ êàêîé. À ÿ äóìàë, ïðîãðàììèñòû â ÑØÀ çàðàáàòûâàþò ãäå-òî $5000 â ìåñÿö.
Ïðè÷åì, ÿ ñ÷èòàþ ýòî îòëè÷íîé çàðïëàòîé â ëþáîé òî÷êå ìèðà. |
ß õîòü è íå ïðîãðàìèñò, è çàðïëàòà ó ìåíÿ íåìíîãî áîëüøå ÷åì $5000 â ìåñÿö, íî êàê òî íå õâàòàåò íà âñå ìîè ïîòðåáíîñòè. Ïðèõîäèòñÿ ñåáÿ îãðàíè÷èâàòü. È ýòî ïðè òîì ÷òî æèâó ÿ ñîâñåì íå â Íüþ Éîðêå è íå â Ñàí Ôðàíöèñêî. _________________
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 19, 2006 7:34pm : |
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Íåò, ïðîãðàììèñòîì âñå-òàêè ëó÷øå - contracting rate $100-$300/hr äëÿ íîðìàëüíîãî ïðîãðàìèñòà. Íî ýòî - âîëüíûì ïðîãðàìèñòîì (íà 1099), à íå íà full time (íà W-2), ãäå $100/÷àñ - ýòî î÷åíü êðóòî. |
Õî÷ó òàêóþ ðàáîòó.... Òîëüêî íå íàõîäÿòñÿ |
Do you really charge less than $100 for consulting services? _________________
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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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: , 19, 2006 7:49pm : |
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Íåò, ïðîãðàììèñòîì âñå-òàêè ëó÷øå - contracting rate $100-$300/hr äëÿ íîðìàëüíîãî ïðîãðàìèñòà. Íî ýòî - âîëüíûì ïðîãðàìèñòîì (íà 1099), à íå íà full time (íà W-2), ãäå $100/÷àñ - ýòî î÷åíü êðóòî. |
Õî÷ó òàêóþ ðàáîòó.... Òîëüêî íå íàõîäÿòñÿ |
Do you really charge less than $100 for consulting services? |
Ó ìåíÿ ñåé÷àñ full-time ïîçèöèÿ. |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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: , 20, 2006 1:45am : |
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ß õîòü è íå ïðîãðàìèñò, è çàðïëàòà ó ìåíÿ íåìíîãî áîëüøå ÷åì $5000 â ìåñÿö, íî êàê òî íå õâàòàåò íà âñå ìîè ïîòðåáíîñòè. |
À ÷òî ýòî çà ìîùíûå òàêèå ïîòðåáíîñòè, åñëè íå ñåêðåò? |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 20, 2006 3:27am : |
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Óæñ êàêîé. À ÿ äóìàë, ïðîãðàììèñòû â ÑØÀ çàðàáàòûâàþò ãäå-òî $5000 â ìåñÿö.
Ïðè÷åì, ÿ ñ÷èòàþ ýòî îòëè÷íîé çàðïëàòîé â ëþáîé òî÷êå ìèðà. |
ß õîòü è íå ïðîãðàìèñò, è çàðïëàòà ó ìåíÿ íåìíîãî áîëüøå ÷åì $5000 â ìåñÿö, íî êàê òî íå õâàòàåò íà âñå ìîè ïîòðåáíîñòè. Ïðèõîäèòñÿ ñåáÿ îãðàíè÷èâàòü. È ýòî ïðè òîì ÷òî æèâó ÿ ñîâñåì íå â Íüþ Éîðêå è íå â Ñàí Ôðàíöèñêî. |
Äåíåã âñåãäà íå õâàòàåò. Íî íà $5000, íàâåðíîå, ìîæíî æèòü äîñòîéíî è íå îñîáî áîÿòüñÿ çà ñâîå áóäóùåå.
ß äóìàþ, ÷òîáû íå ïðèõîäèëîñü ñåáÿ îãðàíè÷èâàòü ïî äåíüãàì â áûòîâûõ âîïðîñàõ, ýòî íóæíî çàðàáàòûâàòü ýòàê ìèëëèîí $ â ìåñÿö. |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 20, 2006 12:57pm : |
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À ÷òî ýòî çà ìîùíûå òàêèå ïîòðåáíîñòè, åñëè íå ñåêðåò? |
Äà íå ñåêðåò. Ïðèìåðíî òàê íà ìåñÿö õîòåëîñü áû:
Mortgage ~2000
House expenses + maintenance ~500 (â ñðåäíåì)
Utilities (phone + cable internet + cell phone + water + garbage + electricity)~400
Car expenses (monthly payment + gas + maintenance + insurance) ~800
Groceries ~300
Dining out + entertainment ~600
Îäåæäà, îáóâü è ìåëêèå ðàñõîäû: ~400
Îòëîæèòü íà îòïóñê ~500
Âðîäå íè÷åãî íå çàáûë...
Total: ~$5500 ïîñëå íàëîãîâ (êðîìå ÷àñòè mortgage)è âû÷åòîâ â 401k, medical, dental and prescription insurance and medical spending account. Ñîîòâåòñòâåííî äëÿ ìåíÿ ãðÿçíûìè ýòî ~$9000/ìåñÿö. Ðåàëüíîñòü ïîêà îò ýòîãî äàëåêà ê ñîæàëåíèþ. Ïî-ìîåìó äîñòàòî÷íî ñêðîìíûå çàïðîñû... À òàê â ïðèíöèïå ÿ ìíîãî åùå ÷åãî õîòåë áû, òèïà çàïèñàòüñÿ â ëåòíóþ øêîëó, ïðèêóïèòü íåáîëüøîé ñàìîëåòèê (äâóõìåñòíûé, òûñÿ÷ çà 50). Íî ýòî óæå íå ïîòðåáíîñòè, à æåëàíèÿ. _________________
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MaxiM Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö
: 03.06.2003 : 3546 : Moscow
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: , 20, 2006 1:00pm : |
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òèïà çàïèñàòüñÿ â ëåòíóþ øêîëó, ïðèêóïèòü íåáîëüøîé ñàìîëåòèê (äâóõìåñòíûé, òûñÿ÷ çà 50). Íî ýòî óæå íå ïîòðåáíîñòè, à æåëàíèÿ. |
À ñêîëüêî ñòîèò îáó÷åíèå â ëåòíîé øêîëå íà ñàìîëåò òàêîãî êëàññà? _________________ MaxiM |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 20, 2006 1:13pm : |
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MaxiM (): |
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òèïà çàïèñàòüñÿ â ëåòíóþ øêîëó, ïðèêóïèòü íåáîëüøîé ñàìîëåòèê (äâóõìåñòíûé, òûñÿ÷ çà 50). Íî ýòî óæå íå ïîòðåáíîñòè, à æåëàíèÿ. |
À ñêîëüêî ñòîèò îáó÷åíèå â ëåòíîé øêîëå íà ñàìîëåò òàêîãî êëàññà? |
Ó íàñ ÷àñ èíñòðóêòîðà ~$50-70 + íà âòîðóþ ïîëîâèíó çàíÿòèé íóæíî áðàòü â ðåíò ñàìîëåò ~$80/÷àñ. Ñêîëüêî âñåãî ïîòðåáóåòñÿ çàíÿòèé íèêòî òåáå çàðàíåå íå ñêàæåò òî÷íî. Áóäåøü çàíèìàòüñÿ ïîêà ëåòàòü íå íàó÷èøüñÿ . Âîîáùå åñòü âàðèàíò âñòóïèòü â êëóá, òàì ïëàòèøü âçíîñ åæåãîäíûé è òåáå äàþò ñêèäêó íà âñå ýòè äåëà è äàëüíåéøèé ðåíò ñàìîëåòîâ. _________________
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 20, 2006 2:06pm : |
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Mortgage ~2000 |
À òû íå ãîâîðèë Ïîçäðàâëÿþ! _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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MaxiM Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö
: 03.06.2003 : 3546 : Moscow
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: , 20, 2006 2:34pm : |
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MaxiM (): |
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òèïà çàïèñàòüñÿ â ëåòíóþ øêîëó, ïðèêóïèòü íåáîëüøîé ñàìîëåòèê (äâóõìåñòíûé, òûñÿ÷ çà 50). Íî ýòî óæå íå ïîòðåáíîñòè, à æåëàíèÿ. |
À ñêîëüêî ñòîèò îáó÷åíèå â ëåòíîé øêîëå íà ñàìîëåò òàêîãî êëàññà? |
Ó íàñ ÷àñ èíñòðóêòîðà ~$50-70 + íà âòîðóþ ïîëîâèíó çàíÿòèé íóæíî áðàòü â ðåíò ñàìîëåò ~$80/÷àñ. Ñêîëüêî âñåãî ïîòðåáóåòñÿ çàíÿòèé íèêòî òåáå çàðàíåå íå ñêàæåò òî÷íî. Áóäåøü çàíèìàòüñÿ ïîêà ëåòàòü íå íàó÷èøüñÿ . Âîîáùå åñòü âàðèàíò âñòóïèòü â êëóá, òàì ïëàòèøü âçíîñ åæåãîäíûé è òåáå äàþò ñêèäêó íà âñå ýòè äåëà è äàëüíåéøèé ðåíò ñàìîëåòîâ. |
À òåîðèÿ ñêîëüêî çàíèìàåò âðåìåíè/äåíåã? _________________ MaxiM |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 20, 2006 2:43pm : |
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Mortgage ~2000 |
À òû íå ãîâîðèë Ïîçäðàâëÿþ! |
Äà íåò, òû íå ïîíÿë, ýòî ó ìåíÿ â ñïèñêå ÷åãî ìíå íàäî â æèçíè, à íå â òîì ÷òî óæå åñòü. Äî òîãî êàê ïîëó÷ó GC î mortgage íå áóäó äàæå äóìàòü. _________________
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 20, 2006 3:22pm : |
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MaxiM (): |
À òåîðèÿ ñêîëüêî çàíèìàåò âðåìåíè/äåíåã? |
Çàâèñèò îò øêîëû. ß íàøåë ìåñòíóþ çà $500 - ïîëíûé êóðñ Ground School + ïî ìèíèìóìó:
24 ÷àñà ïîëåòîâ ñ èíñòðóêòîðîì: 24*(62+40)=$2,448
11 ÷àñîâ îäèíî÷íûõ ïîëåòîâ: 11*62=$682
15 ÷àñîâ Pre/Post flight briefings: 15*40=$600
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Supplies (Books, Flight Computer, Plotter, Charts, Kit)
Private Pilot FAA Written Exam
Examiner's Fee for the FAA Practical Test
Medical License (Depends on Doctor's price)
Åñòåñòâåííî, ýòî îöåíêà ïî öåíå ñíèçó. _________________
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anuta Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 02.11.2005 : 237 : Irkutsk-Daytona Beach-Philadelphia
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: , 21, 2006 3:29am : |
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À âîîáùå, ÿ êàê-òî íåäàâíî ïðèøëà ê âûâîäó, ÷òî çäåñü ÷åì áîëüøå ïîëó÷àåøü, òåì áîëüøå òðàòèøü. Áóäåøü äåëàòü ìèëëèîí áàêñîâ â ìåñÿö, à òðàòèòü ïîëòîðà è òàê ïî íàðàñòàþùåé. Ïîòðåáíîñòè ðàñòóò ïàðàëëåëüíî äîõîäàì, ôèíàíñîâûé óñïåõ, íà ìîé âçãëÿä êðîåòñÿ â óìåíèè óïðàâëÿòü ñâîèìè ôèíàíñàìè. È ÿ íå èìåþ â âèäó âûðåçêó êóïîíîâ èç ãàçåò, à ñêîðåå íóæíî ó÷èòüñÿ ãðàìîòíî êîïèòü è èíâåñòèðîâàòü äåíüãè, ñîçäàâàòü assets, êîòîðûå áû ïîòîì ïîñòîÿííî ãåíåðèðîâàëè äîõîä.
Êñòàòè, ïî ýòîé òåìå íåäàâíî ïðî÷èòàëà òîëêîâóþ, íà ìîé âçëÿä, êíèæêó by Robert Kyosaki, Rich Dad. Poor Dad. Íàñòîÿòåëüíî ðåêîìåíäóþ!!! |
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MaxiM Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö
: 03.06.2003 : 3546 : Moscow
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: , 21, 2006 5:48am : |
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MaxiM (): |
À òåîðèÿ ñêîëüêî çàíèìàåò âðåìåíè/äåíåã? |
Çàâèñèò îò øêîëû. ß íàøåë ìåñòíóþ çà $500 - ïîëíûé êóðñ Ground School + ïî ìèíèìóìó:
24 ÷àñà ïîëåòîâ ñ èíñòðóêòîðîì: 24*(62+40)=$2,448
11 ÷àñîâ îäèíî÷íûõ ïîëåòîâ: 11*62=$682
15 ÷àñîâ Pre/Post flight briefings: 15*40=$600
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Supplies (Books, Flight Computer, Plotter, Charts, Kit)
Private Pilot FAA Written Exam
Examiner's Fee for the FAA Practical Test
Medical License (Depends on Doctor's price)
Åñòåñòâåííî, ýòî îöåíêà ïî öåíå ñíèçó. |
À êàê íè êðóòè, à â Ðîññèè òîæå ñàìîå ðàçà â äâà äîðîæå. Òàê ÷òî åùå íè÷åãî, íîðìàëüíûå öåíû. Çäåñü â ýðîêëóáå áåç 15 000 ÅÂÐÎ ìîæíî èç äîìà íå âûõîäèòü (èíôîðìàöèÿ ãîäè÷íîé äàâíîñòè), ïëþñ ïîêóïêà ñàìîëåòà. Ñàìûé óáèòûé ñòîèò îêîëî $20 000, íî ýòî ïîìîéêà, êîòîðóþ íàäî âûêèäûâàòü. À òî, ÷òî áóäåò ëåòàòü ñòîèò îò $50 000. Ìíå î÷åíü íðàâèòñÿ âåðòîëåò, íî öåíû íà íåãî ïîêà âûñîêè. Òàê ÷òî âûõîä îäèí: óâåëè÷åíèå äîõîäîâ. À âåðòîëåò 95-ì ìîæíî çàëèâàòü ñ îáû÷íîé áåíçîêîëîíêè _________________ MaxiM |
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 27, 2006 12:09am : |
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Ìíîãèå âåùè ÿ äóìàþ ìîãóò áûòü íàìíîãî äåøåâëå....
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Äà íå ñåêðåò. Ïðèìåðíî òàê íà ìåñÿö õîòåëîñü áû:
Mortgage ~2000 |
Ýòî êàêèõ ðàçìåðîâ êâàðòèðà ó òåáÿ áóäåò? Çà 300ê? À ÷òî çà ýòî ìîæíî ó âàñ êóïèòü? Èëè ýòî áóäåò äîì?
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House expenses + maintenance ~500 (â ñðåäíåì)
Utilities (phone + cable internet + cell phone + water + garbage + electricity)~400
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Ñ ýòèì ÿ ñîãëàñåí
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Car expenses (monthly payment + gas + maintenance + insurance) ~800
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Ôèãà ñåáå ñóììû. À ÷òî çà ìàøèíà è êóäà íà íåé òàê äàëåêî ãîíÿòü???
Ó ìåíÿ óõîäèò 250 monthly pmt, ~$120 gas, $120 car insurance (for 2 cars). È íèêàêèõ ìåñÿ÷íûõ ðàñõîäîâ íà ñîäåðæàíèå.
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Dining out + entertainment ~600
Îäåæäà, îáóâü è ìåëêèå ðàñõîäû: ~400
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À ýòî íåïëîõî ñõîäèòü íà 6 ñîòåí â ìåñÿö ïîãóëÿòü. Äà åùå è ìåëêèõ ðàñõîäîâ íà 4 ñîòíè. Âîò òóò-òî òû òî÷íî ìîæíî íåìíîãî ïîäðåçàòü... _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Dan Íîâè÷îê
: 20.05.2006 : 27 : USA, WA
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À âîîáùå, ÿ êàê-òî íåäàâíî ïðèøëà ê âûâîäó, ÷òî çäåñü ÷åì áîëüøå ïîëó÷àåøü, òåì áîëüøå òðàòèøü. Áóäåøü äåëàòü ìèëëèîí áàêñîâ â ìåñÿö, à òðàòèòü ïîëòîðà è òàê ïî íàðàñòàþùåé. Ïîòðåáíîñòè ðàñòóò ïàðàëëåëüíî äîõîäàì, ôèíàíñîâûé óñïåõ, íà ìîé âçãëÿä êðîåòñÿ â óìåíèè óïðàâëÿòü ñâîèìè ôèíàíñàìè. È ÿ íå èìåþ â âèäó âûðåçêó êóïîíîâ èç ãàçåò, à ñêîðåå íóæíî ó÷èòüñÿ ãðàìîòíî êîïèòü è èíâåñòèðîâàòü äåíüãè, ñîçäàâàòü assets, êîòîðûå áû ïîòîì ïîñòîÿííî ãåíåðèðîâàëè äîõîä.
Êñòàòè, ïî ýòîé òåìå íåäàâíî ïðî÷èòàëà òîëêîâóþ, íà ìîé âçëÿä, êíèæêó by Robert Kyosaki, Rich Dad. Poor Dad. Íàñòîÿòåëüíî ðåêîìåíäóþ!!! |
Ïîëíîñòüþ ñîãëàñåí! _________________ Ëó÷øå ÿ áû íå çíàë ÷òî-òàêîå doritos.. |
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