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Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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Àíäðåé - âûðó÷àé! Íèêîãäà íå çàïîëíÿë ýòó àíêåòó, áîþñü èñïîðòèòü - çàâåðíóò   äîëãó íå îñòàíóñü  |
Àíäðåé òîæå åå íèêîãäà íå çàïîëíÿë Äàâàé âñå âìåñòå çäåñü è ïîìîæåì. Òàì, íàñêîëüêî ïîìíþ, íè÷åãî îñîáî ñëîæíîãî íåò. Ñàìûé ñëîæíûé ïóíêò - ôîòîãðàôèÿ. Íî òàì áóäåò ïîäðîáíàÿ èíñòðóêöèÿ, êàê åå äåëàòü.
 îáùåì, æäåì ïðàâèë, êîòîðûå ïîÿâÿòñÿ çàâòðà - à òàì âèäíî áóäåò.
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Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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Ïîìîãèòå ñ ïåðåâîäîì (èç óñëîâèé DV-2010):
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Ïðàâèëüíî ëè ÿ ïîíÿë, ÷òî ó÷àñòíèê äîëæåí èìåòü îáðàçîâàíèå ìèíèìóì íà óðîâíå øêîëû? Ïðîñòî èìååòÿ ïîëíîå ñðåäíåå (øêîëà), ñðåäíå-ñïåöèàëüíîå (òåõíèêóì), âûñøåå - ïîêà â ïðîöåññå ïîëó÷åíèÿ.
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Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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ß ðîäèëñÿ â ãîðîäå Áðåæíåâ (ðàíåå Íàáåðåæíûå ×åëíû), åãî ïåðåèìåíîâàëè ñíîâà â Íàá. ×åëíû, íî â ïàñïîðòå íàïèñàíî: ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ - ã. Áðåæíåâ, ÷òî óêàçàòü â àíêåòå?
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Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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ß ðîäèëñÿ â ãîðîäå Áðåæíåâ (ðàíåå Íàáåðåæíûå ×åëíû), åãî ïåðåèìåíîâàëè ñíîâà â Íàá. ×åëíû, íî â ïàñïîðòå íàïèñàíî: ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ - ã. Áðåæíåâ, ÷òî óêàçàòü â àíêåòå? |
Ïî èäåå - òî æå, ÷òî ó âàñ â çàãðàíïàñïîðòå â ãðàôå "ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ". |
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Ñ ýòèì òîæå ñëîæíî, çàãðàíïàñïîðò åùå íå ïîëó÷àë
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003
: 10421
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ß ðîäèëñÿ â ãîðîäå Áðåæíåâ (ðàíåå Íàáåðåæíûå ×åëíû), åãî ïåðåèìåíîâàëè ñíîâà â Íàá. ×åëíû, íî â ïàñïîðòå íàïèñàíî: ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ - ã. Áðåæíåâ, ÷òî óêàçàòü â àíêåòå? |
Ïî èäåå - òî æå, ÷òî ó âàñ â çàãðàíïàñïîðòå â ãðàôå "ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ". |
Ó ìåíÿ â çàãðàíïàñïîðòå â ýòîé ãðàôå íàïèñàíî: "ÈÐÊÓÒÑÊÀß ÎÁË/USSR" (ïóíêòóàöèÿ ñîõðàíåíà). Ïîñåëîê, â êîòîðîì ÿ ðîäèëñÿ, è êîòîðûé óæå òîæå íàçûâàåòñÿ ïî äðóãîìó, çäåñü íå óêàçàí.
 àíêåòàõ ïîñîëüñòâà, ïîìíþ, ÿ óêàçûâàë Óñòü-Êóò - ãîðîä, ÷àñòüþ êîòîðîãî â áóäóùåì ñòàë ýòîò ïîñåëîê.  ñâèäåòåëüñòâå î ðîæäåíèè íàïèñàíî íàçâàíèå ïîñåëêà ïðè ýòîì.
Âîîáùå, ÿ äóìàþ èì ýòî íå íàñòîëüêî êðèòè÷íî. Ñàì áû óêàçûâàë Íàáåðåæíûå ×åëíû íà ìåñòå Sanchez.
×òî êàñàåòñÿ îáðàçîâàíèÿ - äîñòàòî÷íî îêîí÷àíèÿ øêîëû (High School).
Åùå òàêîé ìîìåíò, Sanchez - ýòî òàê ïîêà íèêòî äîñòîâåðíî íå äîêàçàë, íî è íå äîêàçàë îáðàòíîå, íî åñòü òåîðèÿ, ÷òî åñëè ó÷àñòâîâàòü â ëîòåðåå, òî ïîòîì ìîãóò âîçíèêíóòü ñëîæíîñòè ñ ïîëó÷åíèåì íå èììèãðàöèîííûõ âèç â Øòàòû. Ïðîñòî, ÷òîáû òû çíàë.
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| Åùå òàêîé ìîìåíò, Sanchez - ýòî òàê ïîêà íèêòî äîñòîâåðíî íå äîêàçàë, íî è íå äîêàçàë îáðàòíîå, íî åñòü òåîðèÿ, ÷òî åñëè ó÷àñòâîâàòü â ëîòåðåå, òî ïîòîì ìîãóò âîçíèêíóòü ñëîæíîñòè ñ ïîëó÷åíèåì íå èììèãðàöèîííûõ âèç â Øòàòû. Ïðîñòî, ÷òîáû òû çíàë. |
Äà-äà, åñòü òàêàÿ ìûñëü. Íî ÿ ïîêà â ðàçäóìüÿõ 
À ïîó÷àñòâîâàòü õî÷åòñÿ
 îáùåì 
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Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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| Ïî èäåå - òî æå, ÷òî ó âàñ â çàãðàíïàñïîðòå â ãðàôå "ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ". |
Ñ ýòèì òîæå ñëîæíî, çàãðàíïàñïîðò åùå íå ïîëó÷àë |
Íó, â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå, ïèøèòå êàê â äîêóìåíòàõ, êàê â âàøåì ïàñïîðòå îáùåãðàæäàíñêîì èëè êàê â ñâèäåòåëüñòâå î ðîæäåíèè. ×òî òàì è êàê ïåðåèìåíîâàëè íè÷åãî íå èíòåðåñóåò. |
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Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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| Íó, â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå, ïèøèòå êàê â äîêóìåíòàõ, êàê â âàøåì ïàñïîðòå îáùåãðàæäàíñêîì èëè êàê â ñâèäåòåëüñòâå î ðîæäåíèè. ×òî òàì è êàê ïåðåèìåíîâàëè íè÷åãî íå èíòåðåñóåò. |
ß òîæå òàê ïîëàãþ. Ñïàñèáî çà îòâåò!
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Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
: 08.05.2008
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íàðîä êàê óñïåõè? ïîïðîáîâàë ïàðó ðàç, äàëüøå ïåðâîé ñòðàíèöû ñåðâàê ëåæèò, íàðîä ïîõîæå ëîìèòñÿ ñî âñåãî ñâåòà, ïîäíèìàòü ìèðîâóþ ýêîíîìèêó.  |
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Ìîäåðàòîð
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| íàðîä êàê óñïåõè? ïîïðîáîâàë ïàðó ðàç, äàëüøå ïåðâîé ñòðàíèöû ñåðâàê ëåæèò, íàðîä ïîõîæå ëîìèòñÿ ñî âñåãî ñâåòà, ïîäíèìàòü ìèðîâóþ ýêîíîìèêó. |
Íó òàê áîëèò ñåðäöå çà Àìåðèêó. Íàäî ïðèåõàòü, ïîìî÷ü. |
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Hashish
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| íàðîä êàê óñïåõè? ïîïðîáîâàë ïàðó ðàç, äàëüøå ïåðâîé ñòðàíèöû ñåðâàê ëåæèò, íàðîä ïîõîæå ëîìèòñÿ ñî âñåãî ñâåòà, ïîäíèìàòü ìèðîâóþ ýêîíîìèêó. |
ß ÕÇ, ó ìåíÿ æåíà çàïîëíèëà áåç ïðîáëåì. Ïîïðîáóé çàïîëíèòü, êîãäà â âîñòî÷íîì ïîëóøàðèè íî÷ü.  |
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Ìîäåðàòîð
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Ïî ëîòåðåå DV-2010. Ïàðà âîïðîñîâ, íà íèõ ïîêà îòâåòà íå íàøåë ïîòîìó ÷òî.
1) Åñëè îáðàçîâàíèå "êîëëåäæ" (ñðåäíå-ñïåöèàëüíîå), êàêîå óêàçûâàòü â àíêåòå? Òàì, âðîäå áû, òàêîãî âàðèàíòà íåò. Øêîëà, ÏÒÓ è óíèâåðñèòåò íå ïîäõîäÿò.
2) Äëÿ äîêàçàòåëüñòâà ïëàòåæåñïîñîáíîñòè, êàêóþ ñóììó íóæíî èìåòü? Íàèâíî, êîíå÷íî, ñåé÷àñ îá ýòîì ñïðàøèâàòü, íî âñå-òàêè. Ìîæåò áûòü, íàäî òûñÿ÷ äâàäöàòü, òàê òîãäà è äåðãàòüñÿ íå ñòîèò. |
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Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003
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Ïî ëîòåðåå DV-2010. Ïàðà âîïðîñîâ, íà íèõ ïîêà îòâåòà íå íàøåë ïîòîìó ÷òî.
1) Åñëè îáðàçîâàíèå "êîëëåäæ" (ñðåäíå-ñïåöèàëüíîå), êàêîå óêàçûâàòü â àíêåòå? Òàì, âðîäå áû, òàêîãî âàðèàíòà íåò. Øêîëà, ÏÒÓ è óíèâåðñèòåò íå ïîäõîäÿò.
2) Äëÿ äîêàçàòåëüñòâà ïëàòåæåñïîñîáíîñòè, êàêóþ ñóììó íóæíî èìåòü? Íàèâíî, êîíå÷íî, ñåé÷àñ îá ýòîì ñïðàøèâàòü, íî âñå-òàêè. Ìîæåò áûòü, íàäî òûñÿ÷ äâàäöàòü, òàê òîãäà è äåðãàòüñÿ íå ñòîèò. |
1) Vocational school
2) There is no set amount you must have.
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Ïî ëîòåðåå DV-2010. Ïàðà âîïðîñîâ, íà íèõ ïîêà îòâåòà íå íàøåë ïîòîìó ÷òî.
1) Åñëè îáðàçîâàíèå "êîëëåäæ" (ñðåäíå-ñïåöèàëüíîå), êàêîå óêàçûâàòü â àíêåòå? Òàì, âðîäå áû, òàêîãî âàðèàíòà íåò. Øêîëà, ÏÒÓ è óíèâåðñèòåò íå ïîäõîäÿò.
2) Äëÿ äîêàçàòåëüñòâà ïëàòåæåñïîñîáíîñòè, êàêóþ ñóììó íóæíî èìåòü? Íàèâíî, êîíå÷íî, ñåé÷àñ îá ýòîì ñïðàøèâàòü, íî âñå-òàêè. Ìîæåò áûòü, íàäî òûñÿ÷ äâàäöàòü, òàê òîãäà è äåðãàòüñÿ íå ñòîèò. |
1) Vocational school
2) There is no set amount you must have. |
Ñïàñèáî!
Debaser âñåãäà âîâðåìÿ âûõîäèò èç-çà êóëèñ ñ öåííûì ñîâåòîì. |
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| 2) Äëÿ äîêàçàòåëüñòâà ïëàòåæåñïîñîáíîñòè, êàêóþ ñóììó íóæíî èìåòü? Íàèâíî, êîíå÷íî, ñåé÷àñ îá ýòîì ñïðàøèâàòü, íî âñå-òàêè. Ìîæåò áûòü, íàäî òûñÿ÷ äâàäöàòü, òàê òîãäà è äåðãàòüñÿ íå ñòîèò. |
Íó õîòü ìàëåíüêî:
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| 2) Äëÿ äîêàçàòåëüñòâà ïëàòåæåñïîñîáíîñòè, êàêóþ ñóììó íóæíî èìåòü? Íàèâíî, êîíå÷íî, ñåé÷àñ îá ýòîì ñïðàøèâàòü, íî âñå-òàêè. Ìîæåò áûòü, íàäî òûñÿ÷ äâàäöàòü, òàê òîãäà è äåðãàòüñÿ íå ñòîèò. |
Íó õîòü ìàëåíüêî:
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| If you are selected to apply for a DV visa, before you can be issued a visa, you will be required to provide evidence that you will not become a public charge in the U.S. This evidence may be in the form of a combination of your personal assets, an Affidavit of Support, Form I-134 from a relative or friend residing in the U.S. and/or an offer of employment from an employer in the U.S. |
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Ýòî ÿ ÷èòàë. Íî òóò êîíêðåòíûõ öèôð íå óêàçàíî. Äîïóñòèì, ÷òî íèêàêîé ðàáîòû â ÑØÀ èçâíå ÿ íå íàøåë, è äðóçåé áåñïîêîèòü äîêóìåíòàëüíî çàâåðåííûìè îáÿçàòåëüñòâàìè íå ñîáèðàþñü. Òóò òî, êîíå÷íî, ïðèãîäèòñÿ è ñïðàâêà î ñîáñòâåííîñòè èëè âûïèñêà ñ áàíêîâñêîãî ñ÷åòà. È âîò åñëè âûïèñêà, òî ñêîëüêî íà ñ÷åòå äåíåã òî äîëæíî áûòü, ÷òîáû êîíñóë íå óñîìíèëñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ÿ ïîáèðàòüñÿ íå ñòàíó? Ïÿòü òûñÿ÷? Èëè äåñÿòü? Èëè äâàäöàòü?
Ïÿòü òî òûñÿ÷ - îíî ðàçóìíî âïîëíå. Áåç ïÿòè òûñÿ÷ è åõàòü íå ñòîèò. À òî ïðèäåòñÿ ïîáèðàòüñÿ, áîìæåâàòü è â èòîãå ñèãàíóòü ñ áðóêëèíñêîãî ìîñòà äóðíîé áàøêîé âíèç. À äâàäöàòü - íåïîäúåìíî âåäü. |
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Debaser
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003
: 941
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 ñâîå âðåìÿ, êîãäà Ðîññèÿ åùå ó÷àñòâîâàëà â ëîòåðåå, ÿ ÷èòàë èñòîðèè ïðî èíòåðâüþ íà ãðèí êàðòó ïî ëîòåðåå. Òîãäà êîíñóëû îïèðàëèñü â îñíîâíîì íà îáùåå âïå÷àòëåíèå, êîòîðîå ïðîèçâîäèë ÷åëîâåê â ñìûñëå óñïåøíîãî åãî òðóäîóñòðîéñòâà â Àìåðèêå.  ýòó êàðòèíó âõîäèë íà÷àëüíûé êàïèòàë, íàëè÷èå ñóïðóãè (æåíàòûì ëåã÷å âûæèâàòü), íàëè÷èå ïðîôåññèè, ïî êîòîðîé ìîæíî íàéòè ðàáîòó â Àìåðèêå, íàëè÷èå ðîäñòâåííèêîâ/äðóçåé â Àìåðèêå, êîòîðûå ïîìîãóò íà ïåðâîå âðåìÿ, è ò.ä. Íå äóìàþ ÷òî ìíîãîå èçìåíèëîñü ñ òåõ ïîð.
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Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003
: 8295
: Russia, Ufa
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