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Andrew
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: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 19, 2008 3:09am     : ×òî äóìàåòå î Smart?


http://gadgetsglore.blogspot.com/2007/12/smart-car-2008.html

Îäèí çíàêîìûé, ó êîòîðîãî ñåé÷àñ MBW 3, ãîâîðèò, ÷òî ñîáèðàåòñÿ âñòàòü â î÷åðåäü è ÷åðåç 5-6 ìåñÿöåâ ïðèîáðåñòè ñåáå ïîäîáíûé àâòîìîáèëü Óëûáêà

ß ñíà÷àëà äóìàë, ÷òî ñ áåçîïàñíîñòüþ ó ýòîé ìàøèíû áóäåò òóãîâàòî, ïîêà íå ïîñìîòðåë âîò ýòî âèäåî.

È ðàñõîä òîïëèâà ó íåå î÷åíü äàæå íåïëîõîé (40/45 ìèëü íà ãàëëîí â ãîðîäå/íà ôðèâåå).
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MaxiM
Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö


: 03.06.2003
: 3546
: Moscow

: , 19, 2008 4:13am     :

Ìíå âîò òàêîé ñìàðò íðàâèòñÿ:
http://cars.auto.ru/cars/used/sale/1484635.html

À ïî÷åìó â î÷åðåäè ñòîÿòü íàäî? Òâîé çíàêîìûé íå â Ðîññèè æå.
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MaxiM
Àðòåì
Ìîäåðàòîð


: 10.03.2003
: 8295
: Russia, Ufa

: , 19, 2008 5:14am     :

Ìíå Ñìàðò íå íðàâèòñÿ. Òàðàíòàéêà êàêàÿ-òî, õîòü äàæå è îò Ìåðñåäåñà...

Åñëè óæ åñòü Î×ÅÍÜ ÑÅÐÜÅÇÍÛÅ ïðîáëåìû ñ ïàðêîâêîé, êîòîðûå Ñìàðò ìîæåò ðåøèòü, òîãäà åãî ïîêóïêà åùå êàê-òî îïðàâäàíà.  ïðîòèâíîì ñëó÷àå íå âèæó ñìûñëà âîîáùå.

Åñòü áîëåå êðóïíûå ìàøèíû (è áîëüøå ïîõîæèå íà ìàøèíû) ñ ìèçåðíûì ðàñõîäîì òîïëèâà. Íàïðèìåð, VW-Lupo. Èëè äàæå äèçåëüíûé VW-Lupo (ðàñõîä òîïëèâà ïîðÿäêà 3.5-4 ëèòðîâ íà 100 êì).

Õîòÿ ÿ íå â êóðñå, Lupo âûïóñêàþò èëè óæå ñíÿëè ñ ïðîèçâîäñòâà. Ïðîñòî, â Ðîññèè åãî îôèöèàëüíî íå ïðîäàþò.

Íî åñòü è äðóãèå íåáîëüøèå ýêîíîìè÷íûå àâòîìîáèëè, êîòîðûå, òåì íå ìåíåå, íå ÿâëÿþòñÿ íåäîàâòîìîáèëÿìè, êàê Ñìàðò.
Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 19, 2008 5:41am     :

Àðòåì ():
Íî åñòü è äðóãèå íåáîëüøèå ýêîíîìè÷íûå àâòîìîáèëè, êîòîðûå, òåì íå ìåíåå, íå ÿâëÿþòñÿ íåäîàâòîìîáèëÿìè, êàê Ñìàðò.

Ìíå êàæåòñÿ Ñìàðò õîðîø â äîïîëíåíèè ê êàêîìó-òî àâòîìîáèëþ. Òî åñòü, íà Ñìàðòå ïî áóäíÿì â îôèñ åçäèòü, à íà äðóãîé, ïîëíîöåííîé ìàøèíå - íà îòäûõ.

Áëàãî ñòîèìîñòü íà íîâûé Ñìàðò íå êóñàåòñÿ - $12-18 òûñÿ÷.
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Sanchez
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 13.03.2008
: 231
: Tatarstan

: , 19, 2008 5:58am     :

Íåïëîõàÿ ìàøèíêà!
Êàê áîëåå óäîáíàÿ àëüòåðíàòèâà ñêóòåðàì, íó è áîëåå äîðîãàÿ ñîîòâåòñòâåííî Óëûáêà
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 19, 2008 6:04am     :

MaxiM ():
À ïî÷åìó â î÷åðåäè ñòîÿòü íàäî? Òâîé çíàêîìûé íå â Ðîññèè æå.

Àìåðèêà ïåðåíèìàåò ðîññèéñêèé îïûò Ïîäêàëûâàþ
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MaxiM
Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö


: 03.06.2003
: 3546
: Moscow

: , 19, 2008 11:10am     :

Andrew ():
MaxiM ():
À ïî÷åìó â î÷åðåäè ñòîÿòü íàäî? Òâîé çíàêîìûé íå â Ðîññèè æå.

Àìåðèêà ïåðåíèìàåò ðîññèéñêèé îïûò Ïîäêàëûâàþ
Ëó÷øå íå íàäî, -äóðíîå äåëî íå õèòðîå.
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MaxiM
Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö


: 03.06.2003
: 3546
: Moscow

: , 19, 2008 11:15am     :

Andrew ():
Àðòåì ():
Íî åñòü è äðóãèå íåáîëüøèå ýêîíîìè÷íûå àâòîìîáèëè, êîòîðûå, òåì íå ìåíåå, íå ÿâëÿþòñÿ íåäîàâòîìîáèëÿìè, êàê Ñìàðò.

Ìíå êàæåòñÿ Ñìàðò õîðîø â äîïîëíåíèè ê êàêîìó-òî àâòîìîáèëþ. Òî åñòü, íà Ñìàðòå ïî áóäíÿì â îôèñ åçäèòü, à íà äðóãîé, ïîëíîöåííîé ìàøèíå - íà îòäûõ.

Áëàãî ñòîèìîñòü íà íîâûé Ñìàðò íå êóñàåòñÿ - $12-18 òûñÿ÷.
Åñëè åãî îôèöèàëüíî ïîñòàâëÿþò, òî äà, - åñòü ñìûñë ïðèîáðåñòè, à åñëè íåò, òî ãèìîðíî. Ìû íà ìàøèíó íåïîñòàâëÿåìó îôèöèàëüíî â Ðîññèþ íè ñòðàõîâîé ïîëèñ, íè çàï÷àñòè çà îäèí äåíü êóïèòü íå ìîæåì, òî ñòðàõîâàÿ êîìïàíèÿ îòêàçûâàåò, òî ìàñëî òîëüêî â îäíîì ìàãàçèíå ïðîäàþò. ×åãî íå ñêàæåøü î ïðåäûäóùèõ íàøèõ ìàøèíàõ, êîòîðûå â Ðîññèþ îôèöèàëüíî ïîñòàâëÿëèñü è íèêàêèõ ïðîáëåì íèêîãäà íå áûëî.
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White Owl
Øòàòíûé çàíóäà


: 10.03.2003
: 2452
: USA, New York City

: , 19, 2008 2:31pm     :

Äëÿ òåõ êòî ñ÷èòàåò Smart àëüòåðíàòèâîé ñêóòåðó Óëûáêà
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkjZtfgqC2w
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 19, 2008 3:25pm     :

White Owl ():
Äëÿ òåõ êòî ñ÷èòàåò Smart àëüòåðíàòèâîé ñêóòåðó Óëûáêà
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkjZtfgqC2w

Âåñåëîå âèäåî. Â Ðîññèè íà Ñìàðòå åùå è êàðòîôåëüíîå ïîëå âåäü êîïàòü ìîæíî, ðàññòîÿíèå ìåæäó êîëåñàìè íåáîëüøîå, ìåæäó êàðòîôåëüíûìè ðÿäàìè ïðîõîäèòü áóäåò Ïîäêàëûâàþ
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SychAn
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 29.01.2007
: 117
: Ðîññèÿ, Ìîñêâà

: , 19, 2008 7:01pm     :

Ìíå îí íðàâèòñÿ! ÍÎ 1) ðåàëüíûé ðàñõîä ãîðàçäî áîëüøå (îêîëî 10 ëèòðîâ\100 êì) è 2) èç-çà òóðáèíû ïðèõîäèòñÿ åå ìåíÿòü êàæäûå 100 000 êì. à ýòî ãèìîð. Õîòÿ â àìåðèêè îí è ñòîÿò ïðèëè÷íî, à ó íàñ....... çà 12-18 òîêî ïîääåðæàííûé(((
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Andrew
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: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 19, 2008 7:12pm     :

PUMPER ():
1) ðåàëüíûé ðàñõîä ãîðàçäî áîëüøå (îêîëî 10 ëèòðîâ\100 êì)

Îòêóäà òàêàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ?
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White Owl
Øòàòíûé çàíóäà


: 10.03.2003
: 2452
: USA, New York City

: , 19, 2008 8:31pm     :

ñ ñàéòà www.smartusa.com:

>> What is the gas mileage of smart?

Engineering and testing continues to take place on the vehicle that will be produced for the United States. The vehicle is designed to achieve 40 city/45 highway mpg according to 2007 EPA standards and 33 city/41 highway mpg according to 2008 EPA standards. The mpg rating for all vehicles will decrease in 2008 due to new calculation methods that the EPA has adopted. These methods involve measuring mpg while taking into account real life driving conditions such as start/stop city traffic, air conditioning, heating, etc. The gas tank of the smart fortwo is 8.7 gallons.

*Fuel economy estimates were derived in accordance with the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) vehicle testing procedures for model year 2008 as specified in 40 C.F.R. pts. 86 and 600 (2007). These estimates are intended for comparison between other vehicles within the same class. Individual drivers’ actual mileage will vary depending on how they drive and maintain their vehicles.
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MaxNero
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 19.04.2005
: 641
: Different city in USA :) -> Moscow, RU -> USA

: , 20, 2008 12:02pm     :

Õîðîøàÿ ìàøèíêà Óëûáêà Õîòü è íà 2 ïåðñîíû, íî êîìôîðòíî (äàæå ïðè ìîèõ 190, âèäíî ÷òî áóäåò êîìôîðòíî ëþäÿì åùå áîëåå áîëüøèõ ãàáàðèòîâ).
èç ìèíóñîâ -
1. Íà 120 ïî òðàññå êàæåòñÿ ÷òî ñêîðî âçëåòèøü Óëûáêà
2. Ïåðâîå âðåìÿ îïàñëèâîå îùóùåíèå â ïîâîðîòàõ (âñå æå ìàøèíà ìàëåíüêàÿ, íî âûñîêàÿ), ïîòîì ïðîõîäèò.
3. Êàê æå îí ãóäèò íà êðóòûõ ãîðêàõ (ìîòîð-òî çà ñïèíîé), íî, õîòü è ìåäëåííî, íà ïåðâûõ ïåðåäà÷àõ âñå æå âñþäó çàáèðàëñÿ.

Îáÿçàòåëüíî ïðèîáðåòó òàêîé ñåáå â áóäóùåì êàê äîâåñîê ê áîëüøîé ìàøèíå äëÿ ïîåçäîê ïî ãîðîäó.

PUMPER ():
ðåàëüíûé ðàñõîä ãîðàçäî áîëüøå (îêîëî 10 ëèòðîâ\100 êì)

Ìíå êàæåòñÿ âñå æå ìåíüøå - ìû íà îäíîì áàêå(ëèòðîâ 30 îí òàì ïî-ìîåìó), ïðîåõàëè îêîëî 500-600êì. È ýòî â óñëîâèÿõ ïîñòîÿííûõ ãîðîê (ñì. ï.3 Óëûáêà ).

p.s. â Ìîñêâå ñòàë âèäåòü âñå ÷àùå è ÷àùå.
SychAn
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: 29.01.2007
: 117
: Ðîññèÿ, Ìîñêâà

: , 20, 2008 2:10pm     :

ß ñåáå êîãäà õîòåë òàêóþ, ÷èòàë ôîðóìû âëàäåëüöåâ. Ìíåíèå ñëîæèëîñü, ÷òî SMART äîñòîåí âíèìàíèÿ, íî èìååò ñïåöèôè÷åñêèå ïðîáëåìû. Ïîýòîìó òóò êîìó ÷òî
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Oleg_Msk
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: 30.09.2004
: 1000

: , 21, 2008 6:02am     :

MaxNero ():
Õîðîøàÿ ìàøèíêà Óëûáêà Õîòü è íà 2 ïåðñîíû, íî êîìôîðòíî (äàæå ïðè ìîèõ 190, âèäíî ÷òî áóäåò êîìôîðòíî ëþäÿì åùå áîëåå áîëüøèõ ãàáàðèòîâ).
èç ìèíóñîâ -
1. Íà 120 ïî òðàññå êàæåòñÿ ÷òî ñêîðî âçëåòèøü Óëûáêà
2. Ïåðâîå âðåìÿ îïàñëèâîå îùóùåíèå â ïîâîðîòàõ (âñå æå ìàøèíà ìàëåíüêàÿ, íî âûñîêàÿ), ïîòîì ïðîõîäèò.
3. Êàê æå îí ãóäèò íà êðóòûõ ãîðêàõ (ìîòîð-òî çà ñïèíîé), íî, õîòü è ìåäëåííî, íà ïåðâûõ ïåðåäà÷àõ âñå æå âñþäó çàáèðàëñÿ.

Îáÿçàòåëüíî ïðèîáðåòó òàêîé ñåáå â áóäóùåì êàê äîâåñîê ê áîëüøîé ìàøèíå äëÿ ïîåçäîê ïî ãîðîäó.

PUMPER ():
ðåàëüíûé ðàñõîä ãîðàçäî áîëüøå (îêîëî 10 ëèòðîâ\100 êì)

Ìíå êàæåòñÿ âñå æå ìåíüøå - ìû íà îäíîì áàêå(ëèòðîâ 30 îí òàì ïî-ìîåìó), ïðîåõàëè îêîëî 500-600êì. È ýòî â óñëîâèÿõ ïîñòîÿííûõ ãîðîê (ñì. ï.3 Óëûáêà ).

p.s. â Ìîñêâå ñòàë âèäåòü âñå ÷àùå è ÷àùå.

ß ñíà÷àëà ïîäóìàë, ÷òî 190 - ýòî âåñ, è èñïóãàëñÿ çà smart Óëûáêà)))
Helen_NJ
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: 13.11.2003
: 1539
: NC, USA

: , 22, 2008 10:31pm     :

Ìû âèäåëè Smart (ó íèõ, êñòàòè, äâå ìîäåëè - äâóõ- è ÷åòûðåõìåñòíàÿ) íà àâòîøîó â Äåòðîéòå. Ýòî áûëà åäèíñòâåííàÿ (!) ìàøèíà, âîçëå êîòîðîé ñòîÿëî äâå îòäåëüíûå äëèííûå î÷åðåäè, ÷òîáû ïîñèäåòü íà âîäèòåëüñêîì è íà ïàññàæèðñêîì ñèäåíüè. Âíóòðè äåéñòâèòåëüíî íåîæèäàííî ïðîñòîðíî, îñîáåííî ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ äðóãèìè êîìïàêòíûìè ìàøèíàìè. Ðÿäîì ñî ìíîé íà ñèäåíüå ïëþõíóëñÿ çäîðîâåííûé íåãð è ðàäîñòíî çàÿâèë, ÷òî îí íå ìîã âìåñòèòüñÿ â Jaguar, à òóò î÷åíü äàæå íè÷åãî.

Íàñ÷åò áåçîïàñíîñòè - òàì æå ìîæíî áûëî âèäåòü âñþ âíóòðåííþþ êîíñòðóêöèþ ìàøèíû è äåéñòâèòåëüíî ðàìà òàì äîâîëüíî ñòàáèëüíàÿ. Ê òîìó æå â ÑØÀ äîâîëüíî âûñîêèå ñòàíäàðòû ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè è î÷åíü ìíîãî áåçðàáîòíûõ àäâîêàòîâ. Óëûáêà Òàê ÷òî äóìàþ îíè áû è íå ïîëåçëè íà ýòîò ðûíîê, åñëè áû ìàøèíà áûëà äîñòàòî÷íî safe.

Äóìàþ â ãîðîäàõ îíà áóäåò äîñòàòî÷íî ïîïóëÿðíà, à âîò â suburbs, ÷åñòíî ãîâîðÿ, íå âèæó åé îñîáîãî ïðèìåíåíèÿ. Íà ìåñòíûõ freeway'àõ òåáÿ çàòðóò íà òàêîé ìàøèíêå, à ðàñõîä áåíçèíà íå òàê óæ è íèçîê, ÷òîáû ýòî êîìïåíñèðîâàòü.
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Slava
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: 10.03.2003
: 4182
: at this moment Stamford CT

: , 23, 2008 1:58am     :

Âïðèöèïå ìàøèíêà íè÷åãî. Íî ÿ äóìàþ ÷òî îíà áîëüøå ïîäõîäèò ê åçäå ïî ãîðîäó. Íàïðèìåð ìîåé ìàìå òàê êàê îíà ðàáîòàåò â ïðåäåëàõ íàøåãî ãîðîäà è åõàòü äî ðàáîòû åé âñåãî 5 ìèíóò ïî ãîðîäñêèì óëèöàì.

À âîò íà øîññå ÿ áû íà íåé íå âûåçàë. Ñòðàøíîâàòî. Ýòî íàâåðíîå êàê ñúåçæàòü ïî ñíåãó íà ñàíêàõ èëè ïëàññìàññîâîì ïîäõîïíèêå. Ñàíêè òÿæåëåå íî æîïó áûñòðî íå îòîáúåøü...

Ïðîñòî èíòåðåñíî áûëî áû êàêîâû îùóùåíèÿ íà íåé ïðè 70-80 ìèëü â ÷àñ ñêîðîñòè....

Ýòó ìàøèíó ìîæíî êàê çàïàñíóþ âîçèòü â êóõîâå Honda Pilot Ñìåõ

Íàñ÷åò ðàñõîäà ÿ ñîãëàñåí ñ White Owl, òîæå ÷èòàë ýòî. Òàê ÷òî ïðè òàêîì ðàñõîäå ìîæíî ñïîêîéíî áðàòü òó æå Honda Civic è åõàòü íàìíîãî êîìôîòàáåëåå.

Ýòà ìàøèíà ñòàëà ïîïóëÿðíà ïîòîìó ÷òî òóò ( ÑØÀ) íàðîäó òåïåðü äóìàåò ÷òî ÷åì ìåíüøå ìàøèíà òå ìåíüøå ðàñõîä òîïëèâà. È òèïà ó Ñìàòðà ïðè ýêñòðåìàëüíî ìàëûõ ðàìåðàõ è ðàñõîä áóäåò ïî÷òè íóëåâîé. Âîò òîëüêî îøèáî÷êà.

È êñòàòè èç-çà òîãî ÷òî íàðîä òåïåðü â ÑØÀ ìàññîâî ðèíóëñÿ ñêóïàòü ìàëåíüêèå ìàøèíå èç-çà öåí íà áåíçèí íà íåêîòîðûå (êàê Ñìàðò) îêàçàëè î÷åðåäè. Âîò ñ ãèáðèäàìè òîæå ïðîáëåìû. Íå óñïåâàþò áàòàðåå äåëàòü ÷òîáû óâëåòâîðÿòü ñïðîñ.
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Oleg_Msk ():

ß ñíà÷àëà ïîäóìàë, ÷òî 190 - ýòî âåñ, è èñïóãàëñÿ çà smart Óëûáêà)))

 òàêîì ñëó÷àå ïóãàòüñÿ íóæíî áûëî áû çà ìåíÿ â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü Ïîäêàëûâàþ.

Slava ():

Ïðîñòî èíòåðåñíî áûëî áû êàêîâû îùóùåíèÿ íà íåé ïðè 70-80 ìèëü â ÷àñ ñêîðîñòè....

Ñìîòðè âûøå - îùóùåíèå, ÷òî âçëåòàåøü Óëûáêà

À òàê - ðåàëüíî ïàðêóåòñÿ íà ïÿòî÷êå è ïðîëåçåò ïî÷òè ãäå óãîäíî Óëûáêà  íåêîòîðûõ ìåñòàõ ãîðíûõ äîðîã ó íàñ áûëè áû áîëüøèå ïðîáëåìû â ïëàíå ðàçúåçäà ñî âñòðå÷íîé, à òóò - ñâîáîäíî ïðîåçæàåøü, äàæå íå ïðèòîðìàæèâàåøü.
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