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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
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: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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: , 29, 2012 1:17pm : Hood Pins |
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Àíäðåé,
Îáúÿñíÿé ÷òî ýòî òàêîå è íàôèãà ýòî íóæíî? |
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SychAn Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 29.01.2007 : 117 : Ðîññèÿ, Ìîñêâà
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òàê âðîäå æå â "ôîòî íåäåëè" âñÿ îáúÿñíåíî...
P.S. Àíäðåé, ÿ ïî÷åìó-òî îïÿòü ïîä ñòàðûì íèêîì. ÿ äóìàë òû ïîìåíÿë ìåíÿ íà íîâîé è íà ôîðóìå. |
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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
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: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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"Êàïîò òåïåðü äåðæèòñÿ íà Ìóñòàíãå ñëîâíî ïðèâàðåííûé: øàòàåøü åãî çà êðàé — øàòàåòñÿ âñÿ ìàøèíû öåëèêîì. Ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, íà âûñîêèõ ñêîðîñòÿõ îí áîëüøå íå áóäåò âèáðèðîâàòü. Òåõíè÷åñêè ýòî è åñòü ïðåäíàçíà÷åíèå hood pins, íî íå áóäó êðèâèòü äóøîé, îñíîâàíÿ ïðè÷èíà, ïî êîòîðîé ìíå õîòåëîñü èõ óñòàíîâèòü — èìåííî âíåøíèé âèä."
Ýòî ÷òî-ëè îáúÿñíåíèå? Òî åñòü åãî íàäî ïîíèìàòü òàê ÷òî ó Ìóñòàíãîâ ïðè âûõîäå ñ ôàáðèêè êàïîò äðåáåçæèò? È ëþäè âûíóæäåííû ïîêóïàòü ýòè hood pins è ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî èõ óñòàíàâëèâàòü?
ß íå ìîãó ïîâåðèòü ÷òî ìàðêà êîòîðóþ Àíäðåé îáîæàåò, òðåáóåò ïîäâÿçûâàòü êàïîòû âåðåâî÷êîé. |
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SychAn Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 29.01.2007 : 117 : Ðîññèÿ, Ìîñêâà
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íà âûñîêèõ ñêîðîñòÿõ ÿ äóìàþ ìîæåò, ýòî âåäü íå ìàëîëèòðàæêà. äà è â îáùåì-òî ìóñòàíã - ýòî áþäæåòíûé àâòî. òîò æå êàìàðî ïîñîâðåìåííåå áóäåò. è åñëè ýòè hood pins ñóùåñòâóþò, è ìíîãèå èõ ñòàâÿò, òî çíà÷èò äåéñòâèòåëüíî äðåáåçæèò ![Øèðîêàÿ óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ Sincerely yours |
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Tet Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 18.07.2011 : 1233 : Óêðàèíà, íî ùà âðåìåííî â Èòàëèè
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íà âûñîêèõ ñêîðîñòÿõ ÿ äóìàþ ìîæåò, ýòî âåäü íå ìàëîëèòðàæêà. äà è â îáùåì-òî ìóñòàíã - ýòî áþäæåòíûé àâòî. òîò æå êàìàðî ïîñîâðåìåííåå áóäåò. è åñëè ýòè hood pins ñóùåñòâóþò, è ìíîãèå èõ ñòàâÿò, òî çíà÷èò äåéñòâèòåëüíî äðåáåçæèò ![Øèðîêàÿ óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
Òî, ÷òî äðåáåçæàíèå ìîæåò áûòü , òî ýòî ïîíÿòü ìîíà, ò.ê. íå â÷åðà àâòî âûïóñòèëè ñ çàâîäà è äð., à âîò òî , ÷òî çàêðåïèòü êàïîò âîçìîæíî òîëüêî ïðè ïîìîùè óñòðîéñòâà, êîòîðîå òðåáóåò íàëè÷èå äûðû...!?!?!? ÿ íå ñìîãëà ïîíÿòü. Äðóãèå âàðèàíòû åñòü?
Êàìåííûé âåê, îäíàêà. ![Íå çíàþ](images/smiles/icon_dontknow.gif) _________________ Çäîðîâüÿ, ìèðà, óäà÷è è äîëãèõ ñ÷àñòëèâûõ ëåò.
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
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: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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Ëþáóþ ìàøèíó ìîæíî óëó÷øàòü ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ ñåðèéíûì âàðèàíòîì. Ïîòîìó êàê ñåðèéíûé âûïóñê ïîäðàçóìåâàåò, ÷òî íóæíû òåõíîëîãè÷íûå è óäîáíûå äëÿ âñåõ ðåøåíèÿ. ß íå äóìàþ, ÷òî ïîäîáíûé çàìîê íà êàïîò íóæåí áÎëüøåé ÷àñòè äàæå âëàäåëüöåâ Ìóñòàíãîâ.
Åñòü ó àâòîìîáèëåé òàêàÿ õàðàêòåðèñòèêà, êàê "æåñòêîñòü êóçîâà íà êðó÷åíèå". Ïî÷åìó-òî å¸ ðåäêî óêàçûâàþò â æóðíàëàõ è ñòàòüÿõ. Êîíñòðóêòîðû ãîä îò ãîäà å¸ ïûòàþòñÿ âñåãäà óâåëè÷èòü, ò.ê. áîëåå æåñòêèé êóçîâ ìåíüøå "õëÿáàåò" íà ïîâîðîòàõ è íåðîâíîñòÿõ, òî÷íåå ñòàíîâèòñÿ ðóë¸æêà, ìåíüøå çàïàçäûâàíèÿ ïðè ðåçêîì áûñòðîì ðóëåíèè.
 ñëó÷àå ñ Ìóñòàíãîì, íàâåðíîå, ðàçíèöà â æåñòêîñòè êóçîâà ïðîÿâëÿåòñÿ â ýêñòðåìàëüíûõ ðåæèìàõ, íà êîòîðûõ îáû÷íûé êàêîé-íèáóäü ñåäàí íå åçäèò íèêîãäà.
Âíåøíå ìíå ýòîò çàìîê ñîâñåì íå íðàâèòñÿ, íî åñëè îí ïðèíîñèò ðåàëüíóþ ïîëüçó, òî ÿ îäîáðÿþ. Íî, ãëàâíîå, ÷òîá õîçÿèíó ìàøèíû íðàâèëîñü.
Ïðåäïîëàãàþ îäíàêî, ÷òî íà æåñòêîñòü êóçîâà áîëüøå ïîâëèÿëà ðàñïîðêà ìåæäó ïåðåäíèìè ñòîéêàìè. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Ñïàñèáî çà òîëêîâîå îáúÿñíåíèå, Àðòåì! ß äåéñòâèòåëüíî íåäîñòàòî÷íî ïîíÿòíî íàïèñàë.
SychAn (): |
äà è â îáùåì-òî ìóñòàíã - ýòî áþäæåòíûé àâòî. |
Áþäæåòíîñòü òóò íå èìååò íèêàêîãî îòíîøåíèÿ. Äàæå íà íåêîòîðûå íîâûå Ôåððàðè-Èòàëèÿ ñòàâÿò hood pins, ïðè÷åì áûâàåò, ÷òî ñðàçó 4 øòóêè. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Ýòî ÷òî-ëè îáúÿñíåíèå? Òî åñòü åãî íàäî ïîíèìàòü òàê ÷òî ó Ìóñòàíãîâ ïðè âûõîäå ñ ôàáðèêè êàïîò äðåáåçæèò? |
Îí íå äðåáåçæèò, à âèáðèðóåò. ß ýòîãî îñîáî íå çàìå÷àë, à âû÷èòûë ñ ôîðóìîâ, êîãäà ñàì èíòåðåñîâàëñÿ âîïðîñîì ïîëåçíîñòè ýòèõ óñòðîéñòâ. Íî ïîâòîðþñü, ñòàâèë ÿ ïðåæäå âñåãî ïîòîìó, ÷òî ìíå î÷åíü íðàâèòñÿ âíåøíèé âèä.
Ê ðàçãîâîðó î "ïåðåâÿçûâàíèè âåðåâêîé", íåêîòîðûå, ïðåäñòàâëÿåøü, óäàëÿþò çàäíåå ñèäåíüå è ñòàâÿò âìåñòî íåãî ïåðåòÿãèâàþùèå êóçîâ òðóáû
Ñ ýòèì Ìóñòàíãîì ÿ òàêîå äåëàòü íå áóäó, òàê êàê õî÷åòñÿ ñîõðàíÿòü åãî êëàññè÷åñêèé âèä, íî âîò íà îäíîì èç ñëåäóþùèõ - 100%. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Äðóãèå âàðèàíòû åñòü?
Êàìåííûé âåê, îäíàêà. ![Íå çíàþ](images/smiles/icon_dontknow.gif) |
Äëÿ Ìóñòàíãîâ äðóãèõ âàðèàíòîâ íåò. Òî÷íåé, åñòü òàêèå hood pins, êîòîðûå ñâåðõó ïðèêëåèâàþòñÿ êëååì íà êàïîò è âûïîëíÿþò èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî äåêîðàòèâíûå öåëè, íî ñàìîìó ñåáå ÿ âðàòü íå óìåþ, ïîýòîìó ñòàâèë íàñòîÿùèå ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Ïðåäïîëàãàþ îäíàêî, ÷òî íà æåñòêîñòü êóçîâà áîëüøå ïîâëèÿëà ðàñïîðêà ìåæäó ïåðåäíèìè ñòîéêàìè. |
Ïîëíîñòüþ ñîãëàñåí, Àðòåì. Ðàñïîðêó ÿ ïîñòàâèë åùå ïàðó ìåñÿöåâ íàçàä è æåñòêîñòü êóçîâà ñòàëà çàìåòíî ñðàçó ïîñëå ýòîãî. Ñ óñòàíîâêîé hood pins êàêîé-ëèáî îùóòèìîé ðàçíèöû íå çàìåòèë. Íî ýòî è íå ðàññòðîèëî, òàê êàê ñòàâèë èõ ïðåæäå âñåãî èç-çà êðàñîòû (ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî òåáå íå íðàâèòñÿ, íî íðàâèòñÿ ìíå ). _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
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: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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Ñïàñèáî çà òîëêîâîå îáúÿñíåíèå, Àðòåì! ß äåéñòâèòåëüíî íåäîñòàòî÷íî ïîíÿòíî íàïèñàë.
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Òû âïîëíå ïîíÿòíî ðàññêàçàë, ÿ ïðîñòî äîïîëíèë è ðàñøèðèë. ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
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: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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Àðòåì (): |
Ïðåäïîëàãàþ îäíàêî, ÷òî íà æåñòêîñòü êóçîâà áîëüøå ïîâëèÿëà ðàñïîðêà ìåæäó ïåðåäíèìè ñòîéêàìè. |
Ïîëíîñòüþ ñîãëàñåí, Àðòåì. Ðàñïîðêó ÿ ïîñòàâèë åùå ïàðó ìåñÿöåâ íàçàä è æåñòêîñòü êóçîâà ñòàëà çàìåòíî ñðàçó ïîñëå ýòîãî. Ñ óñòàíîâêîé hood pins êàêîé-ëèáî îùóòèìîé ðàçíèöû íå çàìåòèë. Íî ýòî è íå ðàññòðîèëî, òàê êàê ñòàâèë èõ ïðåæäå âñåãî èç-çà êðàñîòû (ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî òåáå íå íðàâèòñÿ, íî íðàâèòñÿ ìíå ). |
Íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî, ýòè çàìêè ïðèøëè èç ñïîðòà. È ïðåäíàçíà÷åíû îíè äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû êàïîò íå îòêðûëñÿ, äàæå åñëè ìàøèíó â ãîíêå íåìíîãî "ïîäðèõòîâàëè" êîíêóðåíòû. Òî åñòü â îáûäåííîé æèçíè, åñëè êàïîò ñàì ïî ñåáå íå îòêðûâàåòñÿ (à íà "äåâÿòêàõ" îí, ñëó÷àëîñü, îòêðûâàëñÿ íà õîäó - è òàì òàêèå çàìêè òîæå ïîëåçíû), ýòî ÷èñòî äåêîðàòèâ. |
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SychAn Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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SychAn ïèñàë(à):
äà è â îáùåì-òî ìóñòàíã - ýòî áþäæåòíûé àâòî.
Áþäæåòíîñòü òóò íå èìååò íèêàêîãî îòíîøåíèÿ. Äàæå íà íåêîòîðûå íîâûå Ôåððàðè-Èòàëèÿ ñòàâÿò hood pins, ïðè÷åì áûâàåò, ÷òî ñðàçó 4 øòóêè. |
ýòî áûëî íàïèñàíî â òîì ñìûñëå, ÷òî äàæå åñëè Àíäðåé îáîæàåò ñâîé ìóñòàíã, íå ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî â íåì íå÷åãî óëó÷øàòü (íåâàæíî äåêîðàòèâíî èëè íàòóðàëüíî)! òåì áîëåå òàêèå ïàðàìåòðû, êàê âèáðàöèÿ íà âûñîêèõ(!) ñêîðîñòÿõ. íå ãîâîðÿ óæå î çàäíåé çàâèñèìîé ïîäâåñêå...
à åñëè áû îí ñ çàâîäà øåë ñ ðàçëè÷íûìè ðàñïîðêàìè, çàìêàìè è ò.ï. òî öåíà áûëà áû âûøå, à ïðîäàæè íèæå. _________________ Sincerely yours |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
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: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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òî öåíà áûëà áû âûøå, à ïðîäàæè íèæå. |
È ýòî óæå áûë áû íå Ìóñòàíã. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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È ýòî óæå áûë áû íå Ìóñòàíã. |
Ïîëíîñòüþ ñîãëàñåí! Òåì Ìóñòàíãè è õîðîøè, ÷òî çà ñðàâíèìî íåâûñîêóþ ñòîèìîñòü (â Àìåðèêå) ìîæíî âçÿòü õàðèçìàòè÷íûé è ìîùíûé àâòîìîáèëü, à ïîòîì ïåðñîíàëèçèðîâàòü è äîðàáàòûâàòü åãî ïîä ñåáÿ. Èìåííî ïîýòîìó íà óëèöàõ âñòðå÷àåòñÿ ìàññà Ìóñòàíãîâ, êàæäûé èç êîòîðûé óíèêàëåí. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
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: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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Äàà.... âñå åùå õóæå ÷åì ÿ ñåáå ïðåäñòàâëÿë.
Êàïîò âèáðèðóåò, êóçîâ ñêðó÷èâàåòñÿ....
Íååå, ÿ Ìóñòàíã òî÷íî ïîêóïàòü íå áóäó. Ìåíÿ òàêèå, ïî îïðåäåëåíèþ õëèïêèå, ìàøèíû íå ïðåëüùàþò. |
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Evgeniy Malyshev Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 12.03.2012 : 450 : Dm.-Pomryaskino/Ulyanovsk, Russia
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Âàì èäåàëüíî ïîäîéäåò Toyota Prius! Ýòî ÿ ÷óâñòâóþ ñâîåé èíòóèöèåé.. ![Ñìåõ](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) _________________ If you`re going to San Francisco,
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you`re going to San Francisco,
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SychAn Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 29.01.2007 : 117 : Ðîññèÿ, Ìîñêâà
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ýòè íåäî÷åòû åñòü â ëþáîé ìàøèíå! ïðîñòî ó÷èòûâàÿ äèêèé õàðàêòåð ìóñòàíãà, îíè áîëåå ÿðêî âûðàæåíû íà íåì.
ìóñòàíã ñêîðåå ïî îïðåäåëåíèþ ìîùíûé è ñ âûñîêèì êðóòÿùèì ìîìåíòîì àâòî. _________________ Sincerely yours |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
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: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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Äàà.... âñå åùå õóæå ÷åì ÿ ñåáå ïðåäñòàâëÿë.
Êàïîò âèáðèðóåò, êóçîâ ñêðó÷èâàåòñÿ....
Íååå, ÿ Ìóñòàíã òî÷íî ïîêóïàòü íå áóäó. Ìåíÿ òàêèå, ïî îïðåäåëåíèþ õëèïêèå, ìàøèíû íå ïðåëüùàþò. |
Æåñòêîñòü êóçîâà íà êðó÷åíèå:
Ford Mustang Coupe 2005 = 21000 Nm/deg
Ford Focus 3-doors = 19600 Nm/deg
Ford Focus 5-doors = 17900 Nm/deg
Õîòÿ, íàäî ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ó Ford Mustang 2005 Convertible æåñòêîñòü êóçîâà = 9500 Nm/deg. Íî ýòî íå ñåêðåò - êàáðèîëåòû âñåãäà èìåþò ìåíåå æåñòêèå êóçîâà, è õóæå óïðàâëÿþòñÿ ïðè ïðî÷èõ ðàâíûõ. |
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SychAn Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 29.01.2007 : 117 : Ðîññèÿ, Ìîñêâà
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Àðòåì, à íàïèøè ëó÷øå öèôðû äðóãèõ èçâåñòíûõ ìàøèí, ÷òîáû íàãëÿäíî ïîíÿòü êàêîâ ìóñòàíã - õëèïîê èëè íåò ![Äóìàþ](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) _________________ Sincerely yours |
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