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×òî èç ýòîãî áîëåå óâàæàåòñÿ,
åñëè ýòî íå îäíî è òî æå ??
1. 5 ëåò â Ðîññèè + îöåíêà â ñøà
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2. 3 ãîäà â Ðîññèè + 2 ãîäà â ñøà( èëè 4+1 )

×òî òàêîå "îöåíêà "
Ýòî ñåðòèôèêàò ãäå íàïèñàíî " Çàâåðåíî "
èëè ýòî íàñòîÿùèé äèïëîì óíèâåðà ?

Êàêóþ ðîëü èãðàþò ôèðìû òèïà "WES" ?
Íóæåí ëè èì óíèâåðñèòåò äëÿ îöåíêè ?


P.S.
Ïîëåçíîé èíôîðìàöèè íà ýòîì ôîðóìå ïîëíî,
íî âñÿ îíà ñèëüíî ðàçäðîáëåíà.

Ìîæåòå îòâåòèòü êîíêðåòíî íà ìîè âîïðîñû ?
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×òî òàêîå "îöåíêà "
Ýòî ñåðòèôèêàò ãäå íàïèñàíî " Çàâåðåíî "
èëè ýòî íàñòîÿùèé äèïëîì óíèâåðà ?


Ìîæåò âû ãîâîðèòå î ïåðåîöåíêå äèïëîìà a.k.a. evaluation?
Âû îòïðàâëÿåòå êîïèþ ñâîåãî äèïëîìà è ïåðåâîä íà àíãë. â ôèðìó êàê WES (íà ñàìîì äåëå òàêèõ êîíòîð íåñêîëüêî). Îíè óæå òàì îïðåäåëÿþò ÷åìó ñîîòâåòñòâóþò âàøè êëàññû èç Ðîññèè çäåñü â ÑØÀ.  ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ, êàê ÿ ñëûøàëà, WES åùå íàïðàâëÿåò çàïðîñ â âàø óíèâåðñèòåò â Ðîññèè.
 ëþáîì ñëó÷àå, ïåðåîöåíêà äèïëîìà ýòî íå àìåðèêàíñêèé äèïëîì (âñìûñëå êíèæå÷êà), à áóìàæêè â âîäÿíûìè çíàêàìè, â êîòîðûõ óêàçàíî íàçâàíèå âàøåãî óíèâåðñèòåòà â Ðîññèè, ýêâèâàëåíò â ÑØÀ (áàêàëàâð, ìàñòåð, òä), îöåíêè, è êîëè÷åñòâî êðåäèòîâ. Ýòî ó ìåíÿ òàê, ó êîãî-òî ìîæåò ïî-äðóãîìó?
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×òî èç ýòîãî áîëåå óâàæàåòñÿ,
åñëè ýòî íå îäíî è òî æå ??
1. 5 ëåò â Ðîññèè + îöåíêà â ñøà
èëè
2. 3 ãîäà â Ðîññèè + 2 ãîäà â ñøà( èëè 4+1 )


Ýòî âîîáùå âñå íåïðàâèëüíî Óëûáêà Òî åñòü äëÿ íà÷àëà íàäî ïîíÿòü çà÷åì òåáå ýòî íàäî - äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû "âûïåíäðèòüñÿ" â Ðîññèè èëè äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ñ ýòèì îáðàçîâàíèåì ðàáîòàòü è æèòü â Øòàòàõ.
Òîãäà ñëåäóþùåå -
Ëó÷øå ïî ñïåöèàëüíîñòè (åñëè òû óæå ó÷èøüñÿ), êîòîðóþ òû òî÷íî ñìîæåøü ðåàëèçîâàòü â Øòàòàõ, çàêîí÷èòü ïÿòü ëåò (òî åñòü ïîëó÷èòü äèïëîì) â Ðîññèè. Çàòåì îòäàòü äèïëîì íà ýâàëþýéøí â Øòàòàõ ("îöåíêà"äèïëîìà) - ýòî íå âñåãäà äåëàåò ñòîðîííÿÿ îðãàíèçàöèÿ, èíîãäà è ñàì óíèâåðñèòåò. Íî ýòî â ñëó÷àå, åñëè òû õî÷åøü ïðîäîëæàòü îáó÷åíèå, à òàê ìîæíî ïðîñòî â êîíòîðå ïåðåâåñòè è âïèñàòü â ðåçþìå è ïîòîì ïîêàçàòü áóìàæêó èç àãåíñòâà î òîì, êàêàÿ ñòåïåíü òåáå ïðèñâîåíà.
åñëè ó÷èòüñÿ äàëüøå, òî êàê è ñêàçàíî âûøå, íàäî ïîëíîñòüþ çàêàí÷èâàòü îáðàçîâàíèå â Ðîññèè, åñëè åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü ïî âðåìåíè), à òî ïûëè íàãëîòàåøüñÿ.  Øòàòàõ îòëè÷íûé îò Ðîññèè ïîäõîä ê îáùåîáðàçîâàòåëüíûì ïðåäìåòàì, òî åñòü çàñòàâÿò ó÷èòü è åñòåñòâåííûå íàóêè è âñþ ýòó ìóðó, à òàê ïðè íàëè÷èå äèïëîìà âñå ýòî îòìåòàåòñÿ Óëûáêà Åñëè ïî ñïåöèàëüíñîòè, òî ìîæíî äåëàòü ñëåäóþùóþ ñòåïåíü, òî åñòü ìàñòåðà, à åñëè äðóãîå íàïðàâëåíèå, òî ïðè íàëè÷èå äèïëîìà ïðèäåòñÿ áðàòü òîëüêî êóðñû ñïåöèàëèçàöèè - è äåëàòü ñýêîíä áý÷åëîð - âòîðîå âûñøåå ïî-íàøåìó.

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Îáû÷íî îòâå÷àåì, åñëè ãîâîðÿò - ïîæàëóéñòà Óëûáêà
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Suba
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Ìîæåòå îòâåòèòü êîíêðåòíî íà ìîè âîïðîñû ?


Îáû÷íî îòâå÷àåì, åñëè ãîâîðÿò - ïîæàëóéñòà Øèðîêàÿ óëûáêà
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Åñëè îòâå÷àþò - òîãäà ãîâîðÿò ñïàñèáî Øèðîêàÿ óëûáêà

ÑÏÀÑÈÁÎ

Âî ïåðâûõ ìíå ýòî íóæíî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ñ ýòèì îáðàçîâàíèåì ðàáîòàòü è æèòü â Øòàòàõ. ( âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àå íàäåþñü)

2. Ñåé÷àñ ÿ ó÷óñü íà 3 êóðñå " Èíôîðìàöèîííûõ òåõíîëîãèé "
( ïîñëå ýòîé ñòðî÷êè Doxx óæå çíàåò, ãäå èìåííî ÿ ó÷óñü ! )
Ïîñðàâíèâàë ìîè ïðåäìåòû ñ ïðåäìåòàìè ýòîé
ñïåöèàëüíîñòè â àìåðèêàíñêèõ óíèâåðàõ - áîëüøèíñòâî ñîâïàäàþò.
Íî ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî â ÑØÀ óêëîí íåìíîãî äðóãîé.
( Â Ðîññèè áîëüøîé óêëîí â ñòîðîíó òåîðèè )
È äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ðàáîòàòü â ÑØÀ íóæíî õîòÿ áû ãîä
ïîó÷èòüñÿ òàì, îáâûêíóòüñÿ. Ìíå òàê êàæåòñÿ.


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 Øòàòàõ îòëè÷íûé îò Ðîññèè ïîäõîä ê îáùåîáðàçîâàòåëüíûì ïðåäìåòàì, òî åñòü çàñòàâÿò ó÷èòü è åñòåñòâåííûå íàóêè è âñþ ýòó ìóðó


 Ðîññèè óæå òîæå ñàìîå

Ìíå " èíôîðìàöèîíùèêó " óæå äàëè :
Ëîãèêó ( íå ïóòàòü! Ìàò.ëîãèêà èäåò îòäåëüíî )
Ýêîíîìèêó
Èñòîðèþ
Åùå ñîáèðàþòñÿ äàòü
Ôèëîñîôèþ
è åùå ÷òî-òî, ïîêà òî÷íî íåçíàþ.

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Çàòåì îòäàòü äèïëîì íà ýâàëþýéøí â Øòàòàõ ("îöåíêà"äèïëîìà) -
ýòî íå âñåãäà äåëàåò ñòîðîííÿÿ îðãàíèçàöèÿ, èíîãäà è ñàì óíèâåðñèòåò. Íî ýòî â ñëó÷àå, åñëè òû õî÷åøü ïðîäîëæàòü îáó÷åíèå


Ìîé óíèâåð äðóæèò ñ óíèâåðàìè ÑØÀ :
Øåííàíäîà(Âèðäæèíèÿ)
Îêëàõîìà-ñèòè.
Äóìàþ ñ ýâàëþýéøí ïðîáëåì íå äîëæíî áûòü â öåëîì.

Ìîæíî ëè áóäåò ïîñëå 4 ëåò â Ðîññèè ýâàëþèðîâàòü ìîå
îáðàçîâàíèå â áàêåëîðà è çà ãîä îáó÷åíèÿ â èõ óíèâåðå
ïîëó÷èòü àìåðèêàíñêèé äèïëîì ìàñòåðà ???


È åñëè ÿ ïðîäîëæó îáó÷åíèå â ÑØÀ
òî ìíå íóæåí ñåðòèôèêàò ( íàïðèìåð TOEFL )
î çíàíèè àíãëèéñêîãî ÿçûêà ???




Áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî âñåì îòêëèêíóâøèìñÿ !
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Ìîæíî ëè áóäåò ïîñëå 4 ëåò â Ðîññèè ýâàëþèðîâàòü ìîå
îáðàçîâàíèå â áàêåëîðà è çà ãîä îáó÷åíèÿ â èõ óíèâåðå
ïîëó÷èòü àìåðèêàíñêèé äèïëîì ìàñòåðà ???



Ìíå íå äàëè. Äî áàêàëàâðà óæå âòîðîé ãîä äîó÷èâàþñü, êàêîé òàì ìàñòåð.
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Ìîæåò ñïåöèàëüíîñòü äðóãàÿ ?

Èëè ïðåäìåòû ñîâñåì äðóãèå ?
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Ìîæåò ñïåöèàëüíîñòü äðóãàÿ ?

Èëè ïðåäìåòû ñîâñåì äðóãèå ?


Cîâñåì äðóãèå îò ÷åãî?

Ñïåöèàëüíîñòü è ïðåäìåòû ìàëî ðîëè èãðàþò. ß íà Privet'å îò íåñêîëüêèõ ëþäåé ñëûøàëà, ÷òî èì äëÿ ÐÀÁÎÒÛ (íå ïóòàòü ñ ó÷åáîé) ïåðåâåëè 4 ãîäà êàê áàêàëàâð, ïëþñ ó íèõ áûëî íåñêîëüêî ëåò ðàáîòû ïî ñïåöèàëüíîñòè. Ìîæåò ýòî ïîâëèÿëî.

À åñëè äëÿ Ó×ÅÁÛ óíèâåðñèòåò â ÑØÀ ýâàëüþèðîâàòü äèïëîì áóäåò èëè â WES îòïðàâëÿòü òî ñêîðåå âñåãî çàïðîñÿò comprehensive report. Òî åñòü ïðîéäóòñÿ ïî âñåì êóðñàì ÷òî âû áðàëè îò îáðàòÿò âíèìàíèå (èç âàøåé àêàäåì ñïðàâêè), ÷òî âû çàêîí÷èëè 4 ãîäà èç 5. È äàäóò ñêîðåå âñåãî êîëè÷åñòâî êðåäèòîâ ñîîòâåòñòâóþùåå 3 - 3.5 ãîäàì â ÑØÀ. ×òî áû äîó÷èòüñÿ â ÑØÀ íà áàêàëàâðà âàì íóæíî áóäåò íå íå äîñòàþùèå ïîëãîäà çàêîí÷èòü, à íàáðàòü ìèíèìàëüíîå êîëè÷åñòâî êðåäèòîâ ÷òîáû ïîëó÷èòü äèïëîì.  ìîåì óíèâåðñèòåòå íóæíî íàáðàòü 60 êðåäèòîâ (15 êðåäèòîâ çà ÷åòâåðòü èòîãî 1ãîä è îäíà ÷åòâåðòü), ÷òîáû àìåðèêàíñêèé äèïëîì áàêàëàâðà ïîëó÷èòü è íå âàæíî ñêîëüêî ó âàñ íà ýòîò ìîìåíò êðåäèòîâ èç Ðîññèè. Ìíå evaluation firm ïåðåâåëà àæ îêîëî 200 êðåäèòîâ (4 ãîäà èç Ðîññèè + ÿ äîïîëíèòåëüíî ïñèõîëîãèþ ó÷èëà). Äëÿ ñðàâíåíèÿ, ÷òîáû ïîëó÷èòü àìåð. äèïëîì íóæíî 180 êðåäèòîâ (â ìîåì óíèâåðñèòåòå ÷åòâåðòè, à íå ñåìåñòðû). Èç 200 êðåäèòîâ ìíå óíèâåðñèòåò çàñ÷èòàë 135, è ñêàçàëè åùå 60 upper division credits äîáèðàòü.

Âîò äëÿ ñðàâíåíèÿ ïîñìîòðèòå:

3a. Basic Report Suitable for: Employment, Immigration, and Military Enlistment
identifies and describes each transcript, grade report, examination record, marks sheet, certificate, diploma, or degree submitted for evaluation
identifies the institution(s) attended and location(s)
provides profile(s) on the institution(s) and program(s) (institution status, entrance criteria, length of study)
recommends the U.S. educational equivalent of each level of study and credentials earned

3b. Course Report (does not include Grades) Suitable for: Professional Certification with a State Licensing/Regulatory Board (e.g.: State Boards of Accountancy, State Boards of Engineering.)
identifies and describes each transcript, grade report, examination record, marks sheet, certificate, diploma, or degree submitted for evaluation
identifies the institution(s) attended and location(s)
provides profile(s) on the institution(s) and program(s) (institution status, entrance criteria, length of study)
recommends the U.S. educational equivalent of each level of study and credentials earned
provides a list of courses/subjects studied per academic year & area of concentration
converts instruction (lectuer & laboratory) hours into equivalent U.S. Semester Units of Credit for all post-secondary/university-level courses

3c. Comprehensive Report (includes Grades) Suitable for: Further Education, Teacher Credentialing
identifies and describes each transcript, grade report, examination record, marks sheet, certificate, diploma, or degree submitted for evaluation
identifies the institution(s) attended and location(s)
provides profile(s) on the institution(s) and program(s) (institution status, entrance criteria, length of study)
recommends the U.S. educational equivalent of each level of study and credentials earned
provides a list of courses/subjects studied per academic year & area of concentration
converts instruction (lectuer & laboratory) hours into equivalent U.S. Semester Units of Credit for all post-secondary/university-level courses
converts grades/marks/final examination results into equivalent U.S. grades of A, B, C, D, F for each course evaluated
calculates an overall Grade Point Average (G.P.A.)
identifies course levels in terms of lower/upper division/graduate/professional level for each post-secondary course evaluated
NO: in the event, the applicant has completed university level education, a list of the subjects studied at the senior high school level is not included in this evaluation. A comprehensive/course report of high school studies is provided only when studies terminated at the secondary level.

Ïåðâûå 2 âàì íå ïîäîéäóò åùå è ïî òîé ïðè÷èíå, ÷òî îíè îöåíêè íå âûñ÷èòûâàþò.
Ïðèìåðíî òî æå ñàìîå ìîæíî ïðî÷åñòü íà http://www.wes.org/fees/evaltypes.asp

Òàê ÷òî íå îò ïðåäìåòîâ çàâèñèò, à îò òîãî, ÷òî äëÿ êàêèõ öåëåé âàì íóæíî ïåðåîöåíèòü íåçàêîí÷åííîå âûñøåå.
Äåðæèòå íàñ â êóðñå, êàê ðàçðåøèòüñÿ âàøà evaluation.
Andrew
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Êàê ïðè ïåðåâîäå äèïëîìà ïåðåâîäèòü îöåíêè? Òî åñòü, åñëè "5" (îòëè÷íî) - ïèñàòü "A"? Èëè êàê? È êàê åùå ïåðåâåñòè ñëîâî "çà÷òåíî"?
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Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ
Andrew
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Áîëüøèíñòâî ïðåäìåòîâ ñàì ïåðåâåë, íî âîò ýòè ìåíÿ â ñòóïîð çàãíàëè:

1. Àíàëèç è äèàãíîñòèêà ôèíàíñîâî-õîçÿéñòâåííîé äåÿòåëüíîñòè.

6. Ââåäåíèå â ñïåöèàëüíîñòü. Âîîáùå íåïîíÿòíî, ÷òî òàêîå Óëûáêà Ñåðüåçíî – íå ïîìíþ, ÷òî çà ïðåäìåò.

12. Èíîñòðàííûé ÿçûê â ñôåðå ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûõ êîììóíèêàöèé. Èíòåðåñóåò èìåííî «Â ñôåðå ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûõ êîììóíèêàöèé». Êñòàòè, íå çíàþ ÷åì îíè ýòî îáîñíîâûâàþò, íî ïî-ìîåìó ýòî ãðóáåéøàÿ îøèáêà, ïèñàòü «èíîñòðàííûé ÿçûê» âìåñòî «àíãëèéñêîãî». Âî âñåì äèïëîìå íè ñëîâà î òîì, êàêîé èìåííî ÿçûê ÿ ó÷èë Äóìàþ

17. Êîíöåïöèè ñîâðåìåííîãî åñòåñòâîçíàíèÿ.

18. Êóëüòóðîëîãèÿ.

22. Ìàòåðèàëîâåäåíèå.

23. Ìàøèíû è êîìïëåêñû â ñòðîèòåëüñòâå.

30. Îðãàíèçàöèÿ, íîðìèðîâàíèå è îïëàòà òðóäà íà ïðåäïðèÿòèÿõ ñòðîèòåëüñòâà.

61. Ýêîíîìèêà ïðèðîäîïîëüçîâàíèÿ. Âòîðîå ñëîâî íå çíàþ, êàê ïåðåâåñòè.

" òîì ÷èñëå àóäèòîðíûõ çàíÿòèé" – êàê ïðàâèëüíî ýòî ïåðåâîäèòñÿ?
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Andrew ():
Êàê ïðè ïåðåâîäå äèïëîìà ïåðåâîäèòü îöåíêè? Òî åñòü, åñëè "5" (îòëè÷íî) - ïèñàòü "A"? Èëè êàê? È êàê åùå ïåðåâåñòè ñëîâî "çà÷òåíî"?


À ó ìåíÿ â äèïëîìå íåò îöåíîê â áàëëàõ, òîëüêî ñëîâàìè ("îòëè÷íî" è ïðî÷àÿ)... Ïåðåâåäåíî ñîîòâåòñòâåííî: Excellent, Good, Satisfactory. "Çà÷òåíî" - "Passed". Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ìíå òàê ïåðåâåëè.
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: 01.03.2003
: 10421
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: , 22, 2005 10:53pm     :

Helen_NJ ():
À ó ìåíÿ â äèïëîìå íåò îöåíîê â áàëëàõ, òîëüêî ñëîâàìè ("îòëè÷íî" è ïðî÷àÿ)... Ïåðåâåäåíî ñîîòâåòñòâåííî: Excellent, Good, Satisfactory. "Çà÷òåíî" - "Passed". Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ìíå òàê ïåðåâåëè.

ß òàê æå ñäåëàë Êëàññíî
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Helen_NJ
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: 13.11.2003
: 1539
: NC, USA

: , 22, 2005 11:05pm     :

Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, êîðÿâûå íàçâàíèÿ íà ðóññêîì ìîæíî ðàçâå ÷òî òàê æå êîðÿâî è äîñëîâíî ïåðåâåñòè íà àíãëèéñêèé. Ãðóñòü Áàçèðóÿñü îïÿòü æå íà ïåðåâîäå ìîåãî äèïëîìà:

Andrew ():
1. Àíàëèç è äèàãíîñòèêà ôèíàíñîâî-õîçÿéñòâåííîé äåÿòåëüíîñòè.


×óøü êàêàÿ-òî. ß áû çàáèëà íà "äèàãíîñòèêó" è íàïèñàëà ÷òî-òî âðîäå
Analysis of financial and economical activities

Andrew ():
16. Ââåäåíèå â ñïåöèàëüíîñòü. Âîîáùå íåïîíÿòíî, ÷òî òàêîå Óëûáêà Ñåðüåçíî – íå ïîìíþ, ÷òî çà ïðåäìåò.


Ýòî òàì, ãäå ñòóäåíòàì îáúÿñíÿþò, íà êîãî æå èõ, ñîáñòâåííî, ó÷àò. Introduction into speciality (çâó÷èò ãëóïî, ïðàâäà). Íå çíàþ

Andrew ():
12. Èíîñòðàííûé ÿçûê â ñôåðå ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûõ êîììóíèêàöèé. Èíòåðåñóåò èìåííî «Â ñôåðå ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûõ êîììóíèêàöèé». Êñòàòè, íå çíàþ ÷åì îíè ýòî îáîñíîâûâàþò, íî ïî-ìîåìó ýòî ãðóáåéøàÿ îøèáêà, ïèñàòü «èíîñòðàííûé ÿçûê» âìåñòî «àíãëèéñêîãî». Âî âñåì äèïëîìå íè ñëîâà î òîì, êàêîé èìåííî ÿçûê ÿ ó÷èë Äóìàþ


Ìîæåò "in the area of professional communications"? Ìíå ïîâåçëî áîëüøå: ïðîñòî "èíîñòðàííûé ÿçûê (íåìåöêèé)". Óëûáêà

Andrew ():
17. Êîíöåïöèè ñîâðåìåííîãî åñòåñòâîçíàíèÿ.


Modern Concepts of Natural Science?

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18. Êóëüòóðîëîãèÿ.


Íå óâåðåíà, ÷òî òàêîå ñëîâî âîîáùå åñòü â ðóññêîì ÿçûêå. À ÷òî âû òàì ïðîõîäèëè?

Andrew ():
22. Ìàòåðèàëîâåäåíèå.


Ýòî íàäî ó èíæåíåðîâ ñïðàøèâàòü. Íå çíàþ

Andrew ():
23. Ìàøèíû è êîìïëåêñû â ñòðîèòåëüñòâå.


À ÷òî çà êîìïëåêñû-òî? Øîêèðîâàí Construction Machinery & <something>. Òüôó òû...

Andrew ():
30. Îðãàíèçàöèÿ, íîðìèðîâàíèå è îïëàòà òðóäà íà ïðåäïðèÿòèÿõ ñòðîèòåëüñòâà.


Åñëè óáðàòü "íîðìèðîâàíèå", òî áóäåò ÷òî-òî âðîäå "Labor Management and Payroll in Construction Industry". Ñëîâàðü "íîðìèðîâàíèå òðóäà" ïåðåâîäèò êàê "work quota setting", íî ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ýòî ñëèøêîì óçêèé ïåðåâîä è ñþäà íå ïîäõîäèò.

Andrew ():
61. Ýêîíîìèêà ïðèðîäîïîëüçîâàíèÿ. Âòîðîå ñëîâî íå çíàþ, êàê ïåðåâåñòè.


Ïðèäóìàëà: Natural Resources Utilization Economics Êëàññíî
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: 01.03.2003
: 10421
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: , 23, 2005 12:26am     :

Helen, ñïàñèáî îãðîìíîå!

Helen_NJ ():
Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, êîðÿâûå íàçâàíèÿ íà ðóññêîì ìîæíî ðàçâå ÷òî òàê æå êîðÿâî è äîñëîâíî ïåðåâåñòè íà àíãëèéñêèé. Ãðóñòü

Ñîãëàñåí. Íå çíàþ, êàê áûëî ðàíüøå, íî âîîáùå îáèäíî, ÷òî íàçâàíèÿ äèñöèïëèí îáðåòàþò âñå áîëüøå ïîõîæèå íàçâàíèÿ íà âñÿêèõ "ìåíåäæåðîâ ïî ïðèåìó ñòåêëîòàðû" è ò. ä. Äóìàþ

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Andrew ():
16. Ââåäåíèå â ñïåöèàëüíîñòü. Âîîáùå íåïîíÿòíî, ÷òî òàêîå Óëûáêà Ñåðüåçíî – íå ïîìíþ, ÷òî çà ïðåäìåò.

Ýòî òàì, ãäå ñòóäåíòàì îáúÿñíÿþò, íà êîãî æå èõ, ñîáñòâåííî, ó÷àò. Introduction into speciality (çâó÷èò ãëóïî, ïðàâäà). Íå çíàþ

Âîò-âîò Óëûáêà

Helen_NJ ():
Ìíå ïîâåçëî áîëüøå: ïðîñòî "èíîñòðàííûé ÿçûê (íåìåöêèé)". Óëûáêà

Ó ìåíÿ áûë è ïðîñòî èíîñòðàííûé ÿçûê (ïðè òîì, â äèïëîìå íåò íè ñëîâà, êàêîé èìåííî Êëàññíî), è ïëþñ åùå ýòîò "â ñôåðå...".

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Andrew ():
18. Êóëüòóðîëîãèÿ.

Íå óâåðåíà, ÷òî òàêîå ñëîâî âîîáùå åñòü â ðóññêîì ÿçûêå. À ÷òî âû òàì ïðîõîäèëè?

×åñòíî, óæå íå ïîìíþ Ñòûäíî Äåëî áûëî íà ïåðâîì ñåìåñòðå.

Word ýòî ñëîâî íå çíàåò, òàê ÷òî ìîæíî ïðåäïîëîæèòü, ÷òî ñëîâî òî÷íî íå ðóññêîå Óëûáêà

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Andrew ():
23. Ìàøèíû è êîìïëåêñû â ñòðîèòåëüñòâå.

À ÷òî çà êîìïëåêñû-òî?

Íåïîëíîöåííîñòè, íàâåðíîå Ïîäêàëûâàþ

À ÷òî, åñëè íàïèñàòü ïðîñòî Equipment?
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Helen_NJ
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: 13.11.2003
: 1539
: NC, USA

: , 23, 2005 12:47am     :

Andrew ():
18. Êóëüòóðîëîãèÿ.


Íàøëà - ýòî òàê è åñòü Cultural Science.

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Andrew ():
23. Ìàøèíû è êîìïëåêñû â ñòðîèòåëüñòâå.

À ÷òî çà êîìïëåêñû-òî?

Íåïîëíîöåííîñòè, íàâåðíîå Ïîäêàëûâàþ

À ÷òî, åñëè íàïèñàòü ïðîñòî Equipment?


Òî÷íî - íàïèøè Construction Equipment è äåëî ñ êîíöîì.

Ýòî åùå íè÷åãî - ó ìåíÿ âîîáùå ñïåöèàëüíîñòü íàçûâàëàñü Îðãàíèçàöèÿ Ìåõàíèçèðîâàííîé Îáðàáîòêè Ýêîíîìè÷åñêîé Èíôîðìàöèè (ÎÌÎÝÈ). Ïîïðîáóéòå ýòî íà àíãëèéñêèé ïåðåâåñòè. ß ýòî è ïî-ðóññêè-òî òîëêîì îáúÿñíèòü íå ìîãó. Òàêîå îùóùåíèå, ÷òî ó íèõ òàì ñïåöèàëüíûé îòäåë, êîòîðûé âñÿêèå èäèîòè÷åñêè-çàóìíûå íàçâàíèÿ ïðèäóìûâàåò. Óëûáêà
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: 01.03.2003
: 10421
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: , 23, 2005 1:26am     :

Ñïàñèáî, Helen! Óëûáêà

À ÷òî, åñëè "ìàòåðèàëîâåäåíèå" ïåðåâåñòè êàê "Construction Materials Science"? Íåñêîëüêî ãðîìêî, íî íå çíàþ, êàê èíà÷å Óëûáêà
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Debaser
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: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 23, 2005 5:44am     :

Andrew ():
Ñïàñèáî, Helen! Óëûáêà

À ÷òî, åñëè "ìàòåðèàëîâåäåíèå" ïåðåâåñòè êàê "Construction Materials Science"? Íåñêîëüêî ãðîìêî, íî íå çíàþ, êàê èíà÷å Óëûáêà
Ìàòåðèàëîâåäèíèå òàê è áóäåò - Materials Science

À åñòåñòâîâåäåíèå ÿ áû ïåðåâåë êàê Natural Sciences
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: 13.11.2003
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: , 24, 2005 10:35pm     :

Èíòåðåñíî, à ÷åì îòëè÷àåòñÿ åñòåñòâîâåäåíèå îò åñòåñòâîçíàíèÿ? Íå çíàþ
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: 10.03.2003
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: , 25, 2005 3:16pm     :

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Èíòåðåñíî, à ÷åì îòëè÷àåòñÿ åñòåñòâîâåäåíèå îò åñòåñòâîçíàíèÿ? Íå çíàþ


Íàçâàíèåì, íàâåðíîå. Ïîäêàëûâàþ
Þëèÿ
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: 08.07.2005
: 1

: , 8, 2005 9:41am     : Îáðàçîâàíèå

Ïðèâåò, ëþäè!
Ïîìîãèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà!
Ñîáèðàþñü åõàòü â Øòàòû ïî ñòàæèðîâêå, íà äíÿõ ïîëó÷èëà äèïëîì â Ðîññèè. Íå îòâåðãàþ âîçìîæíîñòü ïðîäîëæèòü ðàáîòàòü â ÑØÀ ïîñëå ñòàæèðîâêè. ×òî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü ñ äèïëîìîì â Øòàòàõ è â êàêîé ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíîñòè?
Åñëè êîíêåðåòíåé, ÷òî íóæíî âçÿòü â óíèâåðå, ïîêà ÿ åùå çäåñü, â Ðîññèè.
Çàðàíåå ñïàñèáî çà îòâåò!
Andrew
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: 01.03.2003
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: , 8, 2005 10:14am     : Re: Îáðàçîâàíèå

Þëèÿ ():
Ïðèâåò, ëþäè!
Ïîìîãèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà!
Ñîáèðàþñü åõàòü â Øòàòû ïî ñòàæèðîâêå, íà äíÿõ ïîëó÷èëà äèïëîì â Ðîññèè. Íå îòâåðãàþ âîçìîæíîñòü ïðîäîëæèòü ðàáîòàòü â ÑØÀ ïîñëå ñòàæèðîâêè. ×òî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü ñ äèïëîìîì â Øòàòàõ è â êàêîé ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíîñòè?
Åñëè êîíêåðåòíåé, ÷òî íóæíî âçÿòü â óíèâåðå, ïîêà ÿ åùå çäåñü, â Ðîññèè.
Çàðàíåå ñïàñèáî çà îòâåò!

Ïðèâåò, Þëèÿ!

Ïåðåâîäè äèïëîì ïîêà åùå çäåñü, òàê êàê â Øòàòàõ ïðèäåòñÿ òåðÿòü íà ýòî âðåìÿ.

Êñòàòè, îòêóäà òû?  Èðêóòñêå ìîæíî ïåðåâåñòè äèïëîì â Ëèíãâèñòè÷åñêîì Óíèâåðå. Äóìàþ, â òâîåì ãîðîäå íàâåðíÿêà íàéäåòñÿ ÷òî-íèáóäü ïîäîáíîå. Òàì âñå îôèöèàëüíî, ñ ïå÷àòÿìè, çàâåðåíèåì íîòàðèóñà è ò. ä. Ñàì íå äåëàë, íî çíàêîìàÿ, êîòîðàÿ ïàðó äíåé íàçàä óåõàëà â Øòàòû – ïåðåâîäèëà òàì.
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