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iRIK
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 04.02.2004
: 197
: Kazan city, Russia

: , 13, 2004 3:00pm     :

Óõ òû!
Ìíå òîæå íàçíà÷èëè ñîáåñåäîâàíèå íà 11 ìàÿ, â 11-00.
Òåïåðü ìû íà îäèí øàã áëèæå ê çàâåòíîé öåëè!
Äàé Áîã âñåì íàì ïîëó÷èòü âèçó!
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Doxx
US Patriot


: 14.06.2003
: 2082
: Ulyanovsk, Russia

: , 13, 2004 7:57pm     :

Andrew ():
Ìåíÿ íàêîíåö-òî ïðèãëàñèëè íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèå. Âìåñòå ñ Âèêîé. Íàçíà÷åíî íà 11 ìàÿ (êàê ÿ è ïðåäïîëàãàë) íà 9 óòðà. Íå çàáóäüòå íàñ â ýòî âðåìÿ îáìàòåðèòü, íó è åùå êàêóþ-íèáóäü òðàäèöèþ ñîáëþñòè, ÷òîáû êîíñóë ñèëüíî íàñ íå ìó÷èë Óëûáêà

Ïîçäðàâëÿþ! Ýòî òîæå øàã, êîòîðîãî è ÿ êîãäà-òî æäàë (áûëî æå âðåìÿ)... È iRIK'a òîæå ïîçäðàâëÿþ. Æåëàþ Âàì òðîèì óäà÷è!
Êñòàòè êîíñóëà òîæå ìàòåðèòü? Äóìàþ Óëûáêà
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Ñäåëàé ñâîþ ìå÷òó öåëüþ. /Doxx/ ß ëþáëþ ÑØÀ!
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 14, 2004 5:15am     :

Doxx ():
Êñòàòè êîíñóëà òîæå ìàòåðèòü? Äóìàþ Óëûáêà

 ñëó÷àå, åñëè îòêàæåò Ïîäêàëûâàþ.

iRIK, äàâàé ïîñëå ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ âñòðåòèìñÿ?
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Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ
Slava
ÍËÎ


: 10.03.2003
: 4182
: at this moment Stamford CT

: , 14, 2004 7:29am     :

Íó ïèïëû ìîãó òîëüêî ïîæåëàòü óäà÷èòü. Ãëàâíîå íå çàáûâàòü âàñ âñåõ îáìàòåðèòü â òîò äåíü
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Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment
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iRIK
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 04.02.2004
: 197
: Kazan city, Russia

: , 14, 2004 1:50pm     :

Ñïàñèáî âñåì çà ïîçäðàâëåíèÿ!
Íàäåþñü âû âñå åù¸ ðàç ïîçäðàâèòå íàñ ïîñëå 11 ìàÿ. Öâåòû

Àíäðåé, ìû ñ òîáîé îáÿçàòåëüíî âñòðåòèìñÿ!
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 14, 2004 2:01pm     :

Slava ():
Íó ïèïëû ìîãó òîëüêî ïîæåëàòü óäà÷èòü. Ãëàâíîå íå çàáûâàòü âàñ âñåõ îáìàòåðèòü â òîò äåíü

Ñïàñèáî Ñëàâà! Ìû òåáå åùå íàïîìíèì! Óëûáêà

Èðèê, áëèæå ê ïîåçäêå îáãîâîðèì åùå äåòàëè. Íàäåþñü, ïîòîì ïîçäðàâèì äðóã äðóãà Óëûáêà
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Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ
Masha
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 18.01.2004
: 464
: Izhevsk, Russia

: , 16, 2004 10:33am     :

ß íå ïîíÿëà, DS íàäî áûëî çàïîëíèòü è îòïðàâèòü â ïîñîëüñòâî äî 15 àïðåëÿ. Èëè ïðîñòî, ÷òîáû åå âûñëàëè èç Ðèãè ê ýòîìó âðåìåíè?
 îáùåì, ìíå ìîé ïðåäñòàâèòåëü ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ìîÿ DS îæèäàåòñÿ â Èæåâñêå òîëüêî íà ñëåäóùåé íåäåëå è, ÷òî íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèå â ïîñîëüñòâî îíà ìåíÿ çàïèøåò òîëüêî ïîñëå òîãî, êàê DS ïðèäåò. Ýòî íîðìàëüíî?
È åùå, ãäå ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü ñïèñêè ñòóäåíòîâ íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèå â Åêàòåðèíáóðãñêîì ïîñîëüñòâå? È ñïèñêè âûñëàííûõ DS?
Doxx
US Patriot


: 14.06.2003
: 2082
: Ulyanovsk, Russia

: , 16, 2004 7:12pm     :

Masha ():
ß íå ïîíÿëà, DS íàäî áûëî çàïîëíèòü è îòïðàâèòü â ïîñîëüñòâî äî 15 àïðåëÿ. Èëè ïðîñòî, ÷òîáû åå âûñëàëè èç Ðèãè ê ýòîìó âðåìåíè?...

×òî-òî ýòîò âîïðîñ ñòàë äåéñòâèòåëüíî àêòóàëåí, ÿ ïîèñêàë íà ñàéòå ÖÌÎ, íî íå íàøåë íè÷åãî ïîäîáíîãî. Íàïèñàë çàïðîñ â ÖÌÎ...
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Ñäåëàé ñâîþ ìå÷òó öåëüþ. /Doxx/ ß ëþáëþ ÑØÀ!
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 16, 2004 11:08pm     :

Masha ():
ß íå ïîíÿëà, DS íàäî áûëî çàïîëíèòü è îòïðàâèòü â ïîñîëüñòâî äî 15 àïðåëÿ. Èëè ïðîñòî, ÷òîáû åå âûñëàëè èç Ðèãè ê ýòîìó âðåìåíè?

Ìàøà, âðîäå áû ïîñëåäíèé ñðîê ñäà÷è äîêóìåíòîâ â ïîñîëüñòâî – 15 àïðåëÿ. Íî ñåé÷àñ ÿ óæå íè â ÷åì íå óâåðåí. Ìîæåò ýòîò ñðîê ïðîäëèëè?
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Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ
Masha
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 18.01.2004
: 464
: Izhevsk, Russia

: , 17, 2004 7:07am     :

Doxx ():
×òî-òî ýòîò âîïðîñ ñòàë äåéñòâèòåëüíî àêòóàëåí, ÿ ïîèñêàë íà ñàéòå ÖÌÎ, íî íå íàøåë íè÷åãî ïîäîáíîãî. Íàïèñàë çàïðîñ â ÖÌÎ...

Àíäðåé, åñëè òåáå íå ñëîæíî, äàé ïîæàëóéñòà ìíå çíàòü, ÷òî òåáå â ÖÌÎ îòâåòÿò.
Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 17, 2004 11:16am     :

Â÷åðà âçÿë áèëåòû íà ïîåçä. 9 ìàÿ áóäó óæå â Ìîñêâå.
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Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ
Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 17, 2004 11:20am     :

Masha ():
ß íå ïîíÿëà, DS íàäî áûëî çàïîëíèòü è îòïðàâèòü â ïîñîëüñòâî äî 15 àïðåëÿ. Èëè ïðîñòî, ÷òîáû åå âûñëàëè èç Ðèãè ê ýòîìó âðåìåíè?

Ìàøà, âîò ÷òî ìíå òîëüêî ÷òî ïðèøëî â ðàññûëêå ÖÌÎ:
:
Äàòû ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ â ïîñîëüñòâå - åñëè âû íå çíàåòå
âàøó äàòó ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ (íå íàøëè ñåáÿ â ðàññûëêàõ, íå
íàõîäèòå ñåáÿ â ñïèñêàõ ñîáåñåäîâàíèé íà ôîðóìå -
www.iec.ru/forum) - ïîçâîíèòå íàì, ñïðîñèòå Ìàðèíó
Øàòèëîâó - îíà ñîîáùèò âàì ïðî âàøó äàòó ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ.
Ó âñåõ ó÷àñòíèêîâ óæå íàçíà÷åíû ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ

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Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ
Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 20, 2004 8:09am     :

Èíòåðåñíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ïî òåìå òîïèêà íàøåë íà ôîðóìå IEC. Õîòü è ìíîãî, íî ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå íóæíîå:


Hello, everyone!
Ìåíÿ çîâóò FOX.
Èòàê, çäåñü è ñåé÷àñ ÿ õî÷ó ñîçäàòü íàèáîëåå ïîëåçíîå ïîñëàíèå âñåì, êòî åùå íå áûë â ýòîì ãîäó â ïîñîëüñòâå.

Èòàê, äëÿ íà÷àëà, ïî÷åìó âû ìîæåòå äîâåðÿòü ìíå?
Äà ïîòîìó, ÷òî ÿ:
- íå ñ÷èòàþ ñåáÿ ãëóïûì;
- ñêà÷àë è îáðàáîòàë íåñêîëüêî ñîòåí ìåòðîâ èíôû î ñîáåñåäîâàíèè;
- õî÷ó ïîìî÷ü âñåì, êòî åùå íå áûë â ïîñîëüñòâå;
- òàê ìåëî÷ü, =Êëàññíî , íî íà äíÿõ ïîëó÷èë â ïîñîëüñòâå âèçó.

Íå îòõîäÿ îò òåìû, õî÷ó ïîáëàãîäàðèòü âñåõ, êòî âûêëàäûâàåò ïîëåçíóþ èíôó, êòî õî÷åò ïîìî÷ü äðóãèì ëþäÿì è òåì, êòî ïðîñòî ñèäèò â ôîðóìàõ (õîòÿ ÿ íå ýíòóçèàñò ýòîãî äåëà). Âû âñå ïîìîãëè ìíå, òåïåðü ÿ õî÷ó ïîìî÷ü âñåì (êîìó åùå ìîæíî ïîìî÷ü).

Äîêòîð, ãäå ìíå ýòî äîñòàòü?
Ýòî ìîæíî äîñòàòü ãäå óãîäíî, äëÿ íåêîòîðûõ äàæå áåñïëàòíî. ß èìåþ â âèäó ðàçëè÷íóþ èíôó. Åñëè åñòü Æåëàíèå è âðåìÿ (è õîòÿ áû íåìíîãî âîçìîæíîñòè), òî to my mind â I-nete ìîæíî íàéòè äàæå ïîäðîáíîå îïèñàíèå öâåòà òðóñîâ êîíñóëîâ â ðàçëè÷íûå äíè ñîáåñåäîâàíèé. Âñå ïèøóò, íî íå âñå ÷èòàþò. Í-äà... Íàèáîëåå ìíå ïîìîãëè ñàéòû INTEXa (ôîðóìû), W&T (ôîðóìû è îôèöèàëüíàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ), ñàéò ñâîåé ôèðìû (îôèöèàëüíàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ).

À ìíå ïîìîæåò?
Ýòî áëèçêî ê îáëàñòè NLP: åñëè âåðèøü – ïîìîæåò. Ðåàëüíî, ÿ ñ÷èòàþ, íà ïîäãîòîâêó ñî ñðåäíèì çíàíèåì ÿçûêà, ìîæåò õâàòèòü ïàðó äíåé, íî òîëüêî ñ ïîëíîé ñàìîîòäà÷åé è ãîòîâûì èäåàëüíûì ìàòåðèàëîì (ñìîòðè íèæå ìîé âàðèàíò). Íî åñòåñòâåííî, ÷åì áîëüøå – òåì ëó÷øå. Ìíå óæå ïîìîãëî, áîëüøå íå êîìó íå äàâàë, çíà÷èò ïîêà äåéñòâóåò íà 100%. =Êëàññíî

Êàê ÝÒÎ áûëî.
Î÷åíü êðàòêî. Íà÷àë ãîòîâèòüñÿ çàäîëãî äî âûçîâà â ïîñîëüñòâî, ïåðåêà÷àë êó÷ó âñåãî ðàçíîãî, ñèäåë îòáèðàë, ðåäàêòèðîâàë ïîä ñåáÿ, ãîòîâîå ïå÷àòàë ïàðòèÿìè. Ñîçäàâàëèñü è óäàëÿëèñü ôàéëû â î÷åíü áîëüøèõ êîëè÷åñòâàõ, ïîñòîÿííî âñå ìåíÿë. Êñòàòè ðàñïå÷àòêà â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå íàìíîãî, ïîâòîðÿþ íàìíîãî, ëó÷øå ÷òåíèÿ ñ êîìïà – ìîæíî è íóæíî ÷èòàòü ãäå óãîäíî.  ñâÿçè ñî ñòðàñòüþ ê ñîáèðàòåëüñòâó ìàòåðèàëîâ, êîãäà ïðèøåë âûçîâ – ãîòîâ íå áûë. Âñå ó÷èë â ïîñëåäíèå äíè.

×òî ÿ ó÷èë èëè òî, ÷òî èç ìîåãî ïèñüìà òåáå íóæíåå âñåãî: ñîâåòóþ îòêîððåêòèðîâàòü ñî ñâîèìè äàííûìè, ðàñïå÷àòàòü, äàòü äðóãó, ñèäåòü ó÷èòü, íè÷åãî áîëüøå íå èñêàòü (ðåøàé ñàì).

—Study—

What University do you study at? I study at _____ University in ___ (ãîðîä). I have arrived in this university in 2001 year. Educational Institution address ____.

What faculty do you study at? I’m a student at the Faculty of Information Systems and Technologies. Department of information security. Field of study – computer science.

What is your future specialty? My specialty’s a computer systems security. I think I can have good prospects of promotion and to achieve a lot.

What course do you study at? I’m a third year full time student.

What subjects do you study? I study programming, security of operating systems, Internet service, IP-networks, mathematical logic, theory of algorithms and so on.

When do you expect to receive your degree / When will you graduate from the University? I expect to receive me degree on June of 2006. And I’m going to get Honors Diploma.

What are the scheduled dates for your summer vacation (maybe pre-term passing examinations)? My dean let me pre-term passing examinations because I do well, and my vacation’s from the 15th of May till the 15th of September. What’s name of your: rector, vice-rector, dean, vice-dean, manager of department? My rector’s name’s -, vice-rector – , dean – , vice-dean – , manager of department – .

Ñïðàâêà èç óíèâåðà: Proof of students status.
Çà÷åòêà: student’s book, record book, credit card.
Àòòåñòàò: school-leaving certificate.
Áëàãîäàðíîñòü: gratitude, commendations.

—Program—

Where from did you know about the program? From my friends, they came back from the USA last autumn (fall), and recommendated to me take a part in a program this year.

Who are you going with? Alone.

Who pay for your participation? My parents are my sponsors.

Dates of beginning and end of program? From the 15th of May, till the 15th of September.

Will you have an orientation before your leaving? Yes, sure, we will have a lecture in a general office of our company before our leaving

What's name of sponsor-company’s President in the USA?

Will you have orientation after arrival to the USA? Yes, of course, I now that people which took part in a program last summer, as they were in New-York they had an orientation at the day of arrival.

Have you insurance? Yes, sure, our program sponsor made insurance for every participant of a program.

What do your parents do? My father work as a general engineer in a big building company (constructions), it’s a very advantage business, and my mother work at the same company in other department.

How many people are there in your family? I (me), my father and my mother.

Where do you (family) live? My address is: _____
Have you ever been to the USA? No, I have never been to the USA, It’ll be my first visit to the USA.

What are names of your sponsor companies in Russia and in the USA?
Our program sponsor company in the USA is ____. And the company which helps us to prepare the documents here in Russia is ___.

Address, phone, e-mail of sponsor companies? _______.

Have you any work experience? Yes, I worked in a "Bingo-club", and in a "Baltika" company as a shop assistant.

Where will you work (contract)? I have an offer from Jester Scales Inc., Wildwood, New-Jersey. What you gonna do there? I’ll work as amusement park worker – games, attractions.

Where will you live (housing)? Company provides to my housing near place of work.

What about flight? Our company provides us with the tickets, it’s in a program cost.

How will you get to the place of work? From the Newark airport I’ll take New-Jersey Transit bus tickets to Wildwood, NJ.

Could you describe the process of your registration in the program (Internet, interview, registration of documents)? After I decided to take part in the program, I found in Internet address of company which can help me to registries my documents. Then after call to representative of company in appointed time I came to the office, with all documents and took part in the interview. They said to me that I’m worthy / deserving participant, and now I’m here, so that's that.

Why do you want to take part in a program (reason)? It’s a unique chance to experience the United States as more than just a tourist, cultural exchange, I want to see daily life, meet new friends, and share my experience when I’ll back. In my specialty English is a universally language of contact, and it’s enrich will help me to find a good job in Russia, and realize my dream – to open the biggest computer company in my state. I don’t want to miss this opportunity.

Have you got a plan on your summer? Yes, I’m going to work 3 months of summer and travel in last month.

Have you got any hobbies? Yes, twice a week l go to the swimming pool, sometimes we play basketball with my friends, also I like play table tennis. Often I go to our stadium to see games of our football team. And my hobby is reading books.

What are your advantages? Hardworking, friendly, open-minded (have an open mind), flexible, curious, clever, initiative, helpful, joyful, successful.

Social security number – àìåðèêàíñêèé ÈÍÍ
Employment agreement / job offer
Reference / recommendation letter
Participation / participant application

Äëÿ òåõ, êòî óæå áûë â ÑØÀ:
- áûëè ëè âû ðàíüøå â ÑØÀ?
- êòî ïðîèçâîäèë êîíòðîëü íà òåððèòîðèè ÑØÀ (ðåãèîíàëüíûé ïðåäñòàâèòåëü – èìÿ), - â êàêîé êîìïàíèè ðàáîòàëè,
- â òå÷åíèè êàêîãî âðåìåíè,
- ñðîêè ïðåáûâàíèÿ â ÑØÀ, äàòà âûåçäà è ïðèåçäà.
Äîêóìåíòû äëÿ ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ â ïîñîëüñòâå:
1. Ðîññèéñêèé ïàñïîðò
2. Çà÷åòêó èëè å¸ êîïèþ, çàâåðåííóþ äåêàíàòîì
3. Ñòóäåí÷åñêèé áèëåò (êîëè÷åñòâî êóðñîâ äîëæíî ñîâïàäàòü ñ êîëè÷åñòâîì ïå÷àòåé) 4. Äîêóìåíòû î íàëè÷èè ñîáñòâåííîñòè (êâàðòèðû, äà÷è, ìàøèíû è ò.ä.)
5. Ñïðàâêè ñ ìåñòà ðàáîòû ðîäèòåëåé î äîõîäàõ
6. Äîêóìåíòû î ïðîìåæóòî÷íîì îáðàçîâàíèè (êîëëåäæ, òåõíèêóì è ò.ä.)
7. Êîíòðàêò (åñëè íåò íà ðóêàõ, òî âûäàñò ôèðìà)
8. Ïèñüìî îò ñïîíñîðà ñ ôàìèëèåé è èìåíåì ó÷àñòíèêà

Ðàçëè÷íûå ðåêîìåíäàöèè ñ ðàçëè÷íûõ ñàéòîâ, àâòîðàì îãðîìíàÿ áëàãîäàðíîñòü ñ çàíåñåíèåì â ëè÷íîå äåëî (ñîðè, àäðåñîâ íå ïîìíþ, íå ïóãàéñÿ åñëè ôðàçû íå ñâÿçàíû, èñòî÷íèêè ðàçíûå): Òû ãëàâíîå ðàññëàáüñÿ ïî âîçìîæíîñòè! Îäåíüñÿ ïðèëè÷íî, íî íå ñëèøêîì äîðîãî.  îæèäàíèè ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ âåäè ñåáÿ ñïîêîéíî - òàì êàìåðû âåçäå, ñìîòðÿò, êòî íåðâíè÷àåò ñëèøêîì. Íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèè ëó÷øå âñåãî âåñòè ñåáÿ åñòåñòâåííî, ìîæíî ïîëîæèòü ðóêè íà ñòîë, ñìîòðåòü â ãëàçà, èíîãäà óëûáàòüñÿ. Äåëàéòå âèä, ÷òî îáùàåòåñü ñ ëó÷øèì äðóãîì è âàì èíòåðåñíî. Çàèíòåðåñîâàííûé âèä!!! Íà ÷òî ÿ îòâåòèëà, ÷òî äà, âåðíóñü íå ê íà÷àëó çàíÿòèé, íî ñåíòÿáðü-îêòÿáðü ó íàñ áóäåò linguistic practice è ÷òî áóäåò çäîðîâî ïðîéòè åå ñ native speakers. Òàê ÷òî, íå òåðÿéòåñü, ïðèäóìûâàéòå âñÿêèå óáåäèòåëüíûå îòìàçêè è âñå áóäåò êëàññíî! Ãëàâíîå - íå òîðìîçèòü! Ýòî áîëüøå âñåãî èõ íàïðÿãàåò. Ñàìà âèäåëà, êàê îäíîãî ïàðíÿ ñïðîñèëè ôàìèëèþ ïðåïîäàâàòåëÿ, îí íà÷àë âñïîìèíàòü, êîíñóë íå âûäåðæàë îæèäàíèÿ è ñêàçàë "Sorry". Íå íàäî èçäàâàòü çâóêîâ âðîäå "ýýý-ý-ýýý....ììì-ììì-ììì...."! Îòâå÷àéòå áûñòðî è ñïîêîéíî.

Ïî ìåðå âîçìîæíîñòè ìåíüøå ïåðåæèâàéòå, à áîëüøå óëûáàéòåñü. Åñëè âû ÷òî-òî íå ïîíèìàåòå íà àíãëèéñêîì ëó÷øå, ïåðåñïðîñèòå íà ðóññêîì (ýòî àìåðèêàíöû ñî çíàíèåì ðóññêîãî ÿçûêà). Êîíå÷íî, ëó÷øå íà ðóññêèé íå ïåðåõîäèòü, ÿ ñëûøàëà èç-çà ýòîãî äâóì ðåáÿòàì íå äàëè âèçó

Íàñòðîéòå ñåáÿ íà ëó÷øåå. Íåò ïðè÷èí äëÿ îòêàçà âàì âèçû - ýòî ñàìîå ãëàâíîå.  âàøèõ ãëàçàõ äîëæåí áûòü âîñòîðã, æåëàíèå è óâåðåííîñòü â ñåáå. Íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé îáäóìàéòå ïðè÷èíó âàøåãî âîçâðàùåíèÿ â Ðîññèþ (âû õîòèòå ïîëó÷èòü îáðàçîâàíèå â Ðîññèè, òàê êàê çà ðóáåæîì îíî äîðîãîå, âàøè ðîäèòåëè õîðîøî çàðàáàòûâàþò, è âû íè â ÷åì íå íóæäàåòåñü...). Íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèè íå ãîâîðèòå íè÷åãî ëèøíåãî è íå íàâÿçûâàéòåñü. Íå ñòîèò ïðåäúÿâëÿòü âàøè äîêóìåíòû, åñëè âàñ îá ýòîì íå ïîïðîñÿò. Ñàìîå ãëàâíîå íå ïîêàçûâàòü, ÷òî âû íåðâíè÷àåòå, è âñå áóäåò îòëè÷íî. Íàñòðîéòå ñåáÿ ñðàçó íà õîðîøåå, ìû æåëàåì âàì âñåì óäà÷è!!!!

Ïî äîøåäøåé íà äàííûé ìîìåíò äî íàñ èíôîðìàöèè, ðàáîòíèêè êîíñóëüñêîãî îòäåëà ìîñêîâñêîãî ïîñîëüñòâà, â ýòîì ãîäó ëþáÿò çàäàâàòü íåñòàíäàðòíûå âîïðîñû, êàêèå èìåííî? Ïåðå÷èñëÿþ ïðèìåðíûé ñïèñîê:

1. Êàê çîâóò âàøåãî äåêàíà? Ðåêòîðà? Âàøåãî íàó÷íîãî ðóêîâîäèòåëÿ? – Ìîé ñîâåò, åñëè âû ðàñòåðÿëèñü è âäðóã çàáûëè, êàê çîâóò êîãî-òî, òî ñìåëî âûäóìàéòå ÔÈÎ. Ìîåãî ðåêòîðà çîâóò òàê òî è òàê òî. Ïðîôåññîð, äîêòîð òàêèõ òî íàóê =))) Îäíî âðåìÿ ïðåïîäàâàë ó ìåíÿ íà êóðñå òàêîé òî ïðåäìåò. Óâåðåí, ÷òî êîíñóëüñêèé ðàáîòíèê, çàäàþùèé ýòîò âîïðîñ, íå çíàåò ýòîé èíôîðìàöèè, à çàäàåò åãî ëèøü ñ öåëüþ ñïðîñèòü ó âàñ õîòü ÷òî-íèáóäü íà àíãëèéñêîì ÿçûêå

2. Êàêîâà äîëæíîñòü âàøåãî îòöà/ìàòåðè/áðàòà? Ñêîëüêî îí(à) çàðàáàòûâàåò? Êàêèå äîëæíîñòíûå îáÿçàííîñòè èìååò? Äîâîëåí ëè ñâîåé ðàáîòîé? Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ âàøåãî áðàòà? – Òóò óæå æåëàòåëüíî òî÷íî ýòî âñå çíàòü, íî îïÿòü æå, ãëàâíîå íå ðàñòåðÿòüñÿ è íå ïîêàçàòü, ÷òî òû íå çíàåøü îòâåòà íà ýòîò âîïðîñ. Ëó÷øå âûäóìàòü êàêîé òî ïóíêò, ÷åì ñêàçàòü íå çíàþ èëè ïîêàçàòü ñâîþ íåóâåðåííîñòü. Òàê êàê ó êîíñóëüñêîãî ðàáîòíèêà çàêðàäåòñÿ ñîìíåíèå â âàøåé ÷åñòíîñòè è çíàíèè îòâåòà íà ýëåìåíòàðíûé âîïðîñ.

3. Âàæíûé ìîìåíò, îñîáåííî îí âàæåí äëÿ äåâóøåê. Åñëè âû íà âîïðîñ, çà÷åì âû ðåøèëè ïîåõàòü â øòàòû îòâåòèòå, ÷òî õîòèòå óëó÷øèòü èëè ïîäó÷èòü ñâîé àíãëèéñêèé, ïðè ýòîì âû áóäåòå ãîâîðèòü íà ïðàêòè÷åñêè èäåàëüíîì ÿçûêå, ñòàðàÿñü ãîâîðèòü áåç àêöåíòà èëè, íàîáîðîò, ñ àìåðèêàíñêèì àêöåíòîì (êàê âû ïîíèìàåòå, ýòî â îñíîâíîì êàñàåòñÿ ëèíãâèñòîâ), òî áîþñü âàì íèêòî íå ïîâåðèò. Êîíñóë ïîäóìàåò, ÷òî ðàç ó âàñ òàêîé âåëèêîëåïíûé àíãëèéñêèé, òî íåò ñìûñëà âàì åõàòü â øòàòû è ó âàñ îäíà öåëü, âûñêî÷èòü òàì çàìóæ

4. È åùå îäíî, ñíîâà äëÿ äåâóøåê. ×åì ïðîùå âû âûãëÿäèòå íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèè, òåì áîëüøå ó Âàñ øàíñîâ íà ïîëó÷åíèå âèçû. Óæå áûëè ñëó÷àè îòêàçîâ î÷åíü êðàñèâûì è äîðîãî îäåòûì äåâóøêàì. Îäåâàéòåñü ïðåèìóùåñòâåííî â ìóæñêóþ îäåæäó =) Ò.å. áðþ÷íûå äåëîâûå êîñòþìû èëè ïðîñòî äæèíñû

5. Åùå ðàç íàïîìíþ ïðî òî, ÷òî âñå ÎÁßÇÀÍÛ çíàòü, ãäå è êåì ñîáèðàåòåñü ðàáîòàòü. Áîëüøóþ ÷àñòü ýòîé èíôîðìàöèè âû íàéäåòå â ñâîåì ðàáî÷åì êîíòðàêòå. Òàêæå ïîìîæåò ïðåäâàðèòåëüíîå îáùåíèå ñ áóäóùèì ðàáîòîäàòåëåì. Åñëè âû ýòîãî íå ñäåëàëè, òî âäîëü è ïîïåðåê èçó÷èòå ñâîé êîíòðàêò, à òàêæå æåëàòåëüíî èìåòü õîòü êàêîå-òî ïðåäñòàâëåíèå î ìåñòå (ãîðîäå, øòàòå) êóäà âû åäèòå. Âñå ýòî âû íàéäåòå â èíòåðíåòå. Åñëè ðàíüøå âû íèãäå íå ðàáîòàëè, òî òà âàêàíñèÿ, íà êîòîðóþ âû ïðåòåíäóåòå â Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòàõ, äîëæíà ïîäðàçóìåâàòü äîñòàòî÷íîñòü âàøèõ íàâûêîâ. Òàêèì îáðàçîì, âû äîëæíû î÷åíü õîðîøî îðèåíòèðîâàòüñÿ â âîïðîñå âàøåãî ìåñòà ðàáîòû â ÑØÀ è íå âûçûâàòü âàøèì íåçíàíèåì ïîäîçðåíèÿ ó ïðåäñòàâèòåëÿ êîíñóëüñòâà.

6. Îñíîâíûå ìîìåíòû, êîòîðûå âû ìîæåòå ïîä÷åðïíóòü èç âàøåãî Job Offer’à: Íàçâàíèå êîìïàíèè, åå ïîëíûé àäðåñ è òåëåôîíû. Èìÿ ðàáîòîäàòåëÿ èëè ëþáîãî êîíòàêòíîãî ëèöà êîìïàíèè. Òèï áèçíåñà (ðåñòîðàí, îòåëü è ïðî÷åå). Íàçâàíèå âàøåé äîëæíîñòè, çàðàáîòíàÿ ïëàòà â ÷àñ, êîëè÷åñòâî ÷àñîâ â íåäåëþ. Îïëàòà çà ïðîæèâàíèå (åñëè ïðåäîñòàâëÿåòñÿ è åñëè íå ïðåäîñòàâëÿåòñÿ, òî âû äîëæíû èìåòü ïðèìåðíîå ïðåäïîëîæåíèå, ãäå è êàê âû áóäåòå åãî èñêàòü). Ýòî îñíîâíûå ìîìåíòû.

7. Ìîãóò ñïðîñèòü - Êîãäà âû ñîáèðàåòåñü âåðíóòüñÿ â Ðîññèþ? Åñëè âàø îòâåò – ïîçæå ÷åì 1 ñåíòÿáðÿ, òî âû äîëæíû èìåòü ïðåäñòàâëåíèå î òîì, êàê áóäåòå äîãîíÿòü ïðîïóùåííûå ïðåäìåòû è ïî÷åìó âîîáùå âû ðåøèëè âåðíóòüñÿ ïîçæå, ÷åì 1 ñåíòÿáðÿ. Âîçäåðæèòåñü îò ðàçãîâîðîâ î òîì, ÷òî ó÷åáà äàåòñÿ âàì ñ òðóäîì.

8. Îáû÷íî îñíîâíûå âîïðîñû, çàäàâàåìûå íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèè, – ýòî öåëü ïîåçäêè, âàøà ñåìüÿ, âàøà ó÷åáà è ïëàíû íà áóäóùåå (èëè âàøà ïðîôåññèÿ).  öåëîì æå, âàì ìîãóò áûòü çàäàíû ñàìûå ðàçíûå âîïðîñû èç ðàçëè÷íûõ îáëàñòåé âàøåé æèçíè. Íà ëþáîé âîïðîñ âû äîëæíû îòâå÷àòü áûñòðî è ñïîêîéíî. Íî ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ÷åðåñ÷óð êðàñî÷íîå îïèñàíèå Àìåðèêè ñ âàøåé ñòîðîíû ìîæåò âûçâàòü òîëüêî ëèøíèå ïîäîçðåíèÿ è ïîñëóæèòü îäíèì èç ïîâîäîâ â îòêàçå îò ïîëó÷åíèÿ âèçû.  ïðîöåññå ñàìîãî ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ âåäèòå ñåáÿ ñêðîìíî, íî óâåðåííî. È ïðè ðàçãîâîðå ñ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåì êîíñóëüñòâà ñìîòðèòå ëó÷øå íà íåãî, à íå â ïîë. ×òî êàñàåòñÿ äóøåâíîãî ñîñòîÿíèÿ, òî îïðåäåëåííàÿ ñòåïåíü âîëíåíèÿ â äàííîé ñèòóàöèè – àáñîëþòíî åñòåñòâåííà. Íî, òåì íå ìåíåå, äåðæèòå ñåáÿ â ðóêàõ. Ñàìîå ãëàâíîå – íå ïåðåóñåðäñòâóéòå âî âñåõ âûøåïåðå÷èñëåííûõ àñïåêòàõ ïðîõîæäåíèÿ ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ.

9. Èìåéòå â âèäó, ÷òî èñõîäíî íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèè ïðåäñòàâèòåëü êîíñóëüñòâà ÑØÀ îòíîñèòñÿ ê âàì êàê ê ïîòåíöèàëüíîìó èììèãðàíòó. Ãëàâíàÿ âàøà öåëü - äîêàçàòü, ÷òî âû ïðåäîñòàâèëè î ñåáå äîñòîâåðíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ è íå ñîáèðàåòåñü èììèãðèðîâàòü â Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû. Ïðåæäå âñåãî, ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ó ðàáîòíèêà ïîñîëüñòâà êðàéíå ìàëî âðåìåíè äëÿ áåñåäû ñ âàìè. Òàê ÷òî íà âñå âîïðîñû íóæíî îòâå÷àòü ÷åòêî è óâåðåííî (ÍÅ ñàìîóâåðåííî). Íî òàê, ÷òîáû ïî îòíîøåíèþ ê âàì âîçíèêàëî ìèíèìàëüíîå êîëè÷åñòâî äîïîëíèòåëüíûõ âîïðîñîâ. Ãëàâíîé öåëüþ ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïðåäîñòàâëåíèå âàìè äîêàçàòåëüñòâ äîñòàòî÷íûõ ñâÿçåé ñ Ðîññèåé, êàê ýêîíîìè÷åñêèõ, òàê è ðîäñòâåííûõ. Äðóãèìè ñëîâàìè âû äîëæíû äîêàçàòü, ÷òî âàì õîðîøî è çäåñü, è ÷òî âû íå ñîáèðàåòåñü îñòàòüñÿ â øòàòàõ ïîñëå îêîí÷àíèÿ ïðîãðàììû (îïÿòü æå íå ïåðåóñåðäñòâóéòå). Äðóãèì âàæíûì ìîìåíòîì ÿâëÿåòñÿ äîêàçàòåëüñòâî âàøåé ÷åñòíîñòè è èñêðåííîñòè. Ýòî îòíîñèòñÿ êàê ê äàííûì, êîòîðûå âû ïðåäîñòàâèëè äî ïîñåùåíèÿ ïîñîëüñòâà (àíêåòàì, ñïðàâêå èç âóçà, êîïèè ñòóäåí÷åñêîãî áèëåòà), òàê è òåì, êîòîðûé âû áóäåòå äåìîíñòðèðîâàòü â óñòíîé è ïèñüìåííîé ôîðìå íåïîñðåäñòâåííî íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèè. Òî åñòü ó ïðåäñòàâèòåëÿ êîíñóëüñòâà íå äîëæíî âîçíèêíóòü ìûñëè î òîì, ÷òî âû ãîâîðèòå íåïðàâäó. ×òî äëÿ ýòîãî âñåãî íóæíî. Äëÿ ýòèõ öåëåé ïðèãîäÿòñÿ âñåâîçìîæíûå ñïðàâêè, õàðàêòåðèñòèêè, äèïëîìû è ñåðòèôèêàòû. ÏÎÌÍÈÒÅ, ÷òî íå ñòîèò äîñòàâàòü è ïðåäúÿâëÿòü ñðàçó æå âñå èìåþùèåñÿ ó âàñ ñ ñîáîé êèëîãðàììû äîêóìåíòîâ. Äåëàéòå ýòî ê ìåñòó è íå íàçîéëèâî. ×òîáû î íèõ íå ñëîæèëîñü âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷òî êàæäûé øàã â âàøåé æèçíè çàäîêóìåíòèðîâàí.  òàêîå íèêòî íå ïîâåðèò

10. Âñå òâîè îòâåòû äîëæíû ñîâïàäàòü ñ òîé èíôîðìàöèåé, êîòîðàÿ åñòü ó ñîòðóäíèêà ïîñîëüñòâà. Ýòî ìèíèìóì òîãî, ÷òî íóæíî ñäåëàòü è ìàêñèìóì òîãî, ÷òî òû ìîæåøü ñäåëàòü â ïîäàâëÿþùåì áîëüøèíñòâå ñëó÷àåâ. Âñ¸ îñòàëüíîå îò òåáÿ ÍÅ ÇÀÂÈÑÈÒ! Íàäåéñÿ íà óäà÷ó

Ïîäõîæó è îáÿçàòåëüíî çäîðîâàþñü: Good afternoon!, óëûáàþñü êàê áóäòî âèçà óæå â êàðìàíå (îíè ýòî ëþáÿò). Ñïðàøèâàëè åñòü ëè ó ìåíÿ ñåãîäíÿ çàíÿòèÿ â óíèâåðñèòåòå (ñêàçàë, ÷òî íåò), à áóäóò ëè çàâòðà (ñêàçàë: äà, îíè ñïðîñèëè ñî ñêîëüêè è êàêèå ïàðû). Çà÷åòêà âàøà ïîäòâåðæäàåò, ÷òî âû äåéñòâèòåëüíî ñòóäåíò, à ïÿòåðêè- òî, ÷òî âû óêîðåíèëèñü â ñâîåì óíèâåðå è ÷òî îäèí èç ëó÷øèõ ñòóäåíòîâ ñ ÏÅÐÑÏÅÊÒÈÂÀÌÈ! Cîáèðàþñü Get Honors Diploma - Êðàñíûé äèïëîì, Enrich my knowledge of life. Ñîáåñåäîâàíèå â ïîñîëüñòâå - îòâåòñòâåííîå ìåðîïðèÿòèå. Îò åãî ðåçóëüòàòîâ çàâèñèò, ïîåäèòå âû ó÷èòüñÿ èëè íåò. Íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèè ñîòðóäíèê ïîñîëüñòâà çàäàåò âñåì ïðèìåðíî îäíè è òå æå âîïðîñû è õî÷åò óñëûøàòü ÷åòêèå îòâåòû. Íå íàäî áûòü ñëèøêîì ìíîãîñëîâíûì èëè ÷åðåñ÷óð ëàêîíè÷íûì. Åñëè âû ïûòàåòåñü, ÷òî-òî ñêðûòü, îòâå÷àåòå ïóòàíî, íåóâåðåííî, ïîäîëãó çàäóìûâàåòåñü, ýòî íàñòîðîæèò âèçîâîãî îôèöåðà è ìîæåò ïîñëóæèòü ïðè÷èíîé îòêàçà â âûäà÷å âèçû. Ïåðåä ïîñåùåíèåì ïîñîëüñòâà íàäî ñåðüåçíî ïîäãîòîâèòüñÿ, èçó÷èòü ñâîè áóìàãè, ïðîãðàììó êóðñà è ò.ä.

Áóäüòå ãîòîâû ê òîìó, ÷òî îäèí è òîò æå âîïðîñ ìîæåò çàäàâàòüñÿ íåñêîëüêî ðàç (íàïðèìåð, 'íå ïðîäëèòå ëè âû ñâîé êóðñ?') èëè âàì áóäóò çàäàâàòüñÿ êàâåðçíûå âîïðîñû. Ïîýòîìó âàæíî ÷åòêî ïîìíèòü, êàê âû îòâå÷àëè íà òîò èëè èíîé âîïðîñ. Îòâå÷àéòå ñïîêîéíî è óâåðåííî, íå ðàçäðàæàÿñü, äàæå åñëè âîïðîñû ïîêàæóòñÿ âàì íåñêðîìíûìè (íàïðèìåð, î âàøåé çàðïëàòå, èñòî÷íèêå äîõîäîâ, íàëè÷èå íåâåñòû/æåíèõà è ò.ï.). Ýòî èçáàâèò âàñ îò ïîâòîðíîãî ñîáåñåäîâàíèè è óâåëè÷èò øàíñû íà óñïåõ. Äàéòå ïîíÿòü, ÷òî âû î÷åíü çàèíòåðåñîâàíû â ýòîé ïîåçäêå, îäíàêî â ñëó÷àå îòêàçà, òðàãåäèè â âàøåé æèçíè íå ïðîèçîéäåò. È íå çàáûâàéòå, ÷òî îñíîâíàÿ çàäà÷à - äîêàçàòü îòñóòñòâèå èììèãðàöèîííûõ íàìåðåíèé. Íå íàäî îòíîñèòüñÿ ê ñîòðóäíèêàì ïîñîëüñòâà êàê ê 'âðàãàì', êîòîðûå âñåìè ñèëàìè ñòðåìÿòñÿ íå äàòü âàì âèçó. Òàêàÿ ó íèõ ðàáîòà - óçíàòü êàê ìîæíî áîëüøå î ÷åëîâåêå, êîòîðûé ñîáèðàåòñÿ åõàòü â èõ ñòðàíó. Íåñêîëüêî ñîâåòîâ èç îïûòà:
1. Òû äîëæåí âûãëÿäåòü àáñîëþòíî ñïîêîéíî è óâåðåííî.
2. Óëûáàéñÿ
3. Íå îäåâàéñÿ ýêñòðåìàëüíî è íå äåëàé ýêñòðåìàëüíîé ïðè÷¸ñêè (î÷åíü êîðîòêàÿ ñòðèæêà òîæå áîëüøîé ìèíóñ). 4. Îòâå÷àé íà âñå âîïðîñû ñðàçó, áåç ðàçäóìèé, óâåðåííî è ñïîêîéíî.
5. Íå ãîâîðè î òîì, î ÷¸ì òåáÿ íå ñïðàøèâàëè.
6. Íå ëîæèñü íà ïîäîêîííèê ó îêîøêà, ñòîé ïðÿìî.
7. Ñìîòðè íà ñîòðóäíèêà ïîñîëüñòâà. Íå øàðü ãëàçàìè ïî ñòîðîíàì.
8. Âñå òâîè îòâåòû äîëæíû ñîâïàäàòü ñ òîé èíôîðìàöèåé, êîòîðàÿ åñòü ó ñîòðóäíèêà ïîñîëüñòâà. Âñåì èòàê èçâåñòíî: àäåêâàòíûé ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðûé íîðìàëüíî ñåáÿ âåä¸ò, íå âûçûâàåò ïîäîçðåíèé ó êîíñóëüñêèõ îôèöåðîâ.

Íà ñàéòå ïîñîëüñòâà ãîâîðèòñÿ ÷òî, îòâåòñòâåííîñòü çà ïðåäñòàâëåíèå äîêàçàòåëüñòâ òîãî, ÷òî çàÿâèòåëü ìîæåò ïðåòåíäîâàòü íà ïîëó÷åíèå âèçû öåëèêîì è ïîëíîñòüþ ëåæèò íà çàÿâèòåëå, à çàâåðåíèÿ äðóçåé, ðîäñòâåííèêîâ è äåëîâûõ ïàðòí¸ðîâ ñ àìåðèêàíñêîé ñòîðîíû íå âëèÿþò íà ðåøåíèå êîíñóëà îòíîñèòåëüíî âûäà÷è âèçû çàÿâèòåëþ.

ÄÈÀËÎÃÈ
(âûêëàäûâàëè ëþäè ïðîøåäøèå ñîáåñåäîâàíèå)

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Ê: - Good morning. (åäâà âçãëÿíóë íà ìåíÿ, ïîïóòíî ðîÿñü â áóìàæêàõ)
ß: - Good morning. (øèðîêî óëûáàþñü.)
Ê: - Summer Work and Travel, right?
ß: - Right.
Ê: - So, last summer you were...?
ß: - Tennessee, Chattanooga. (ïðåäåëüíî ÷åñòíîå ëèöî)
K – Excuse me?..
ß: - TENNESSEE!
Ê: - Oh, oh, ok, I see. Tennessee. Last time you came back late....
ß: (ñåðäöå óõàåò â ïÿòêè, è çàêðàäûâàþòñÿ íåõîðîøèå ìûñëè, ñîõðàíÿòü óëûáêó âñå òðóäíåå). K: ....October, 15... Right?
ß: - Yes, sir.
K: - You missed some classes, right? (óãðîæàþùå è ñ íàïîðîì)
ß: ñîõðàíÿþ îñòàòêè ñàìîîáëàäàíèÿ è...âäðóã âûïàëèâàþ ïîðàçèòåëüíî ñïîêîéíûì òîíîì: No! K: (îçàäà÷åííîñòü íà ëèöå) – No??? But your classes start....?
ß: Oh, sure, the first of September. But first two months our schedule is rather unstable, classes are not very serious. It was not difficult for me to catch up. So, I didn’t have any problems. (îïÿòü ÷åñòíûå ãëàçà.) K: Ok.... (îïÿòü êîïàÿñü â áóìàæêàõ, âðîäå îòâåò åãî óäîâëåòâîðèë). So, you visited the US once. Why do you want to do it again? ß: (ê ýòîìó âîïðîñó ÿ áûëà ãîòîâà è ïðèãîòîâèëà äëèííóþ ðå÷ü ïðî òî, ÷òî ýòî ïîçâîëèò ìíå improve my English, ÷òî ýòî ïîìîæåò ìíå â áóäóùåé êàðüåðå, òàê êàê ìîÿ ñïåöèàëèçàöèÿ "ÑØÀ è Êàíàäà" è ò.ä.) ß íàáðàëà â ãðóäü ïîáîëüøå âîçäóõà è....âäðóã âûïàëèëà: - I just enjoyed it. I like it! (ïðîñòåöêîå âûðàæåíèå ëèöà) Òóò ÿ íà÷èíàþ ïîíèìàòü, ÷òî îïÿòü ñìîðîçèëà ïîëíûé áðåä è ÷òî ïîðà è ÷åñòü çíàòü, íàâåðíîå.... Íî âñå åùå ñîõðàíÿþ õîðîøóþ ìèíó ïðè ïëîõîé èãðå. Ïî-ïðåæíåìó óëûáàþñü. K: (ê ìîåìó óäèâëåíèþ, âûðàæåíèå ëèöà òàêîå, áóäòî äðóãîãî îòâåòà îí è íå îæèäàë) - Ok! Where are you going this summer? ß: Maryland.
K: Ok. Can you show me your student ticket? (Êàæåòñÿ îí ñêàçàë èìåííî òàê, íå ïîìíþ. Íî ÿ ïîíÿëà, î ÷åì ðå÷ü è ïîëåçëà çà ñòóäíåì.) ß: Here you are. (ïðîòÿãèâàþ ñòóäåí÷åñêèé).
Ê: Îê... (ðàññìàòðèâàåò è âäðóã íà÷èíàåò õìóðèòüñÿ – ÿ óæå â õîëîäíîì ïîòó íàïðÿæåííî æäó ïîäâîõà, õîòÿ áîÿòüñÿ âðîäå áûëî íå÷åãî – ÿ äåéñòâèòåëüíî ñòóäåíòêà). Are you a sophomore? (âòîðîêóðñíèê, åñëè êòî íå çíàåò) ß: No, I’m in my forth year...
K: Oh!!! O’kaaaaay!!! They just make these stamps so close to each other that I can barely see them. ß: (Âûäàâëèâàþ íåðâíûé ñìåøîê, íåðâû íà ïðåäåëå. Ðåøàþ ïîäñóíóòü åùå è ñïðàâêó èç âóçà, òàê, íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé) K: Oh, ok. Ok. So, everything is ok with your documents. (Òóò îí îòúåçæàåò íà ñâîåì êðåñëå íåìíîãî íàçàä è ñïðàøèâàåò êîãî-òî "We are doing the same as last time, aren’t we?" ß: (Òóò äî ìåíÿ äîõîäèò, ÷òî îí èìååò ââèäó – 18 –å ìàðòà, êîãäà îòêàçàëè âñåì. ß ðàññòðîåíà, íî âñå åùå ïûòàþñü óëûáàòüñÿ.) K: Everything is fine. But.... We have some problems with your sponsor organization, they didn’t provide us with correct information. It’s not your fault. You can’t get your visa till we fix the problem. Ok? (ñêëàäûâàåò ìîè áóìàæêè â ñòîïî÷êó) ß: Ok....(c ïîíèìàþùèì âèäîì êèâàþ.) My passport... (ïðîòÿãèâàþ ðóêó)
K: No, no! We will keep it till your company fixes the problem. Ok?
ß: Oh! Sure!!! (øèðîêî óëûáàþñü, ò.ê. ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî åñòü åùå ïîðîõ â ïîðîõîâíèöàõ è ÿãîäû â ÿãî.....íó, òî åñòü, íå âñå åùå ïîòåðÿíî! ) K: Good bye!
ß: Good bye!

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-What is your name?
-My name is Darya Lapik.
-Where do you study?
-I study at the Nourth Caucasus State Technical University
-At what faculty do you study?
-At the faculty of Translater and Interpreter
-At what course do you study?
-I am a second-year student
-What is your future profession?
-My future profession is Translater and Interpreter
-When will you finish your university?
-In 2007
-Where do you go?
-I am leaving for CampAnne in Pennsylvania.
-What will you do there ?
-I will be housekeeper
-What classes did you miss today?
-English...
-At what time
-At 11 O'clock
-What classes do you have tomorrow?
-German...
-Who is your teacher in Phylosophy?
-...(her name)
-Write down your signature, place and date.
-O'K

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: - Hello.


- Hello. What's your name? - ñêàçàë îí ìíå â îòâåò.


- My name is Marina Koval.


- what university are you studing at?


- I'm studing at the Nouth Cacausus State technical university in Stavropol.

- What is your future profession?


- My future profession is translator and interpreter in the intercultural communication.

- What will you do in America?


- I will work as a waitress there.


- Is this your first visit to America?


- Yes.


- all right. - ïîñëå ÷åãî îí ïðèñòóïèë ëèñòàòü ìîè àíêåòû, ïðîòÿíóë ìíå ëèñò è ïðîèçíåñ ñëåäóþùåå - right down your signature, place and date, - è ïîæåëàë ñ÷àñòëèâîãî ïóòè.

- Have a nice day. Bye.


- Bye.

È åùå íåìíîãî íåìàëîâàæíîé èíôîðìàöèè îò ñåáÿ íà äåñåðò èëè Êàê ÝÒÎ áûëî (2):

×òî òàêîå ïîñîëüñòâî? Ýòî òàêîé äîì â Ìîñêâå, âîêðóã êîòîðîãî òîëïèòñÿ êàæäûé äåíü êó÷à ìîëîäåæè, ñëûøàë äàæå, ÷òî ìîæíî èç ýòîãî ìåñòà â Àìåðèêó ïîïàñòü. Âî êàê!!! Çàïèøè àäðåñîê: Áîëüøîé Äåâÿòèíñêèé ïåðåóëîê, 8, 121099. (095)-258-2525. Ñòîèìîñòü çâîíêà $1.65 â ìèíóòó (24 ÷àñà â ñóòêè). Àäðåñ ýëåêòðîííîé ïî÷òû: consulmo@state.gov. Ïîñîëüñòâî ÑØÀ â Ìîñêâå, Êîíñóëüñêèé Îòäåë, Íîâèíñêèé áóëüâàð, 21, 123242.

Ïðèøëè ê ïîñîëüñòâó - ñòîèò áîëüøàÿ î÷åðåäü, êîòîðàÿ óïèðàåòñÿ â äâóõ çäîðîâûõ ìóæèêîâ â ôîðìå ïîëèöèè USA, ïîäõîäèòå ê îõðàííèêàì è ãîâîðèòå íàçíà÷åííîå âðåìÿ è âàñ ïðîïóñêàþò. Ïîïàâ â çäàíèå ïðîõîäèòå íåñêîëüêî êîìíàò: çàë ãäå ñäàåòå âñþ ýëåêòðî, ôîòî è äð. àïïàðàòóðó. Êîëþùèå, ðåæóùèå, ðóáÿùèå ïðåäìåòû, ëó÷øå îñòàâèòü â ãîñòèíèöå. Çàòåì êîìíàòà ñ ìåòàëëîèñêàòåëåì è ïîïàäàåòå â çàë îæèäàíèÿ. Îòòóäà ãðóïïàìè çàáèðàþò íà ñäà÷ó îòïå÷àòêîâ. Îòïå÷àòêè ïðèíèìàþò àìåðèêàíöû â äâóõ îêîøêàõ. Ïîñëå íèõ ïðîõîäèòå â çàë ñäà÷è ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ, ãäå åñòü ðÿäû ñèäåíèé, 5 îêîí è ñòîë ñ âàøèìè çàãðàíïàñïîðòàìè. Çàéäÿ â çàë, ïîäõîäèøü ê ñòîëó, ãîâîðèøü ðóññêîé òåòåíüêå âðåìÿ, íà êîòîðîå âûçâàí è ôàìèëèþ îíà îòêëàäûâàåò òâîé ïàñïîðò â ñòîïêó, êîòîðóþ çàòåì îòäàåò â îäíî èç îêîøåê. Ñàäèøüñÿ è æäåøü, êîãäà òåòåíüêà îòäàëà ñòîïêó ñ òâîèì ïàñïîðòîì, îíà âñòàåò ïîñðåäè çàëà è ãðîìêî òàê ãîâîðèò âàøè ôàìèëèè è âû ÷åëîâåê 7 ïîäõîäèòå ê îêîøêó, íî âûçûâàåò êîíñóë èç îêíà ïî îäíîìó ÷åëîâåêó ïîî÷åðåäè (áîèòñÿ íàâåðíî).

Ìîå ñîáåñåäîâàíèå:

- Hello!
- Hello! Why didn’t you receive your visa last year?
- I have a letter from the embassy, where written that my documents


was incomplete, especially form DS-2019.
- Please write signature, Moscow, and date (ïðîòÿãèâàåò DS-êó).
- Here you are.
- What faculty do you study at?
- I study at a Faculty of Information Systems and Technologies.
- What course do you study at?
- I’m a third year full-time student.
- Why do you want to go to this state?
- Because it’s a seaside and I think it’ll be fun.
- What will be your work?
- Amusement park worker: games, attractions...
- How will you spend your free time?
- I’ll go swimming, play sports and so on.
- What lessons do you have on Friday.
- IP-networks, Internet service, programming.
- OK. You’ll receive your visa in a few days.
- Thank you, can I go?
- Yes.
- Have a nice day.

À òåïåðü ìîè ñàìûå ïîëåçíûå ðåêîìåíäàöèè:

1. Ó÷èë ÿ ïî ãîòîâûì ðàñïå÷àòàííûì 3 ëèñòàì (ñìîòðè "×òî ÿ ó÷èë ..."). Ðåàëüíî ñîâåòóþ êàæäîìó ïî âîçìîæíîñòè ïðîâîäèòü ñåáå òåñòèðîâàíèå íåñêîëüêî ðàç â äåíü ïî âñåì âîïðîñàì. Êòî øàðèò â ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèè – ñäåëàòü áûñòðî ïðîãó, âûäàþùóþ â ðàçíîáîé âñå âîïðîñû (ñíà÷àëà áåç îòâåòîâ). Ñèäèøü îòâå÷àåøü íà âîïðîñ, ñòàðàéñÿ êàê â ïðèãîòîâëåííîì îòâåòå, íå áîëüøå, íå ìåíüøå. Èäåàëüíî åñëè âñå âûó÷èøü, íî íå çàçóáðèâàé, ïðîñòî áóäü ñïîñîáåí âîñïðîèçâåñòè äîñòàòî÷íî ñâîáîäíî. Ìîæíî ïðîñòî íàïèñàòü âîïðîñû íà áóìàæêàõ è âûòàñêèâàòü èç êîðîáêè ïîî÷åðåäè. Î÷åíü âàæíî çà îäèí ïðèñåñò îòðàáàòûâàòü âñå âîïðîñû. Êàê ÿ ãîâîðèë ïàðû äíåé âïîëíå ìîæåò õâàòèòü (ñ óòðà äî âå÷åðà).

2. Ê ëþáîìó âîïðîñó î ïðåäìåòàõ (êàêèå ïðîïóñòèë ñåãîäíÿ, êàêèå áóäóò çàâòðà, èëè êàê ó ìåíÿ âîîáùå â ïÿòíèöó – ðåàëüíî ìíîãèå áû çàâàëèëèñü), áûë ãîòîâ, ïðîñòî âûó÷èâ 6 ïðåäìåòîâ îòíîñÿùèõñÿ ê ñïåöèàëüíîñòè, íåêîòîðûå ïðèäóìàë ñàì, èõ äàæå íèêîãäà íå áûëî.

3. Ê âîïðîñó î ðåêòîðå, äåêàíå, ó÷èòåëÿõ çàðàíåå ðàñïå÷àòàéòå ñ âîïðîñàìè èìåíà è ïðîñòî ïðèâûêíèòå ïðîèçíîñèòü áûñòðî, íå âñïîìèíàÿ, âìåñòå ñ äîëæíîñòüþ. Íî äàæå åñëè çàáóäåòå íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèè, òî ïðîñòî ãîâîðèòå ëþáîå èìÿ, ãëàâíîå îòâåòèòü. Ëè÷íî ÿ âûó÷èë âñåõ õîðîøî, íî èìåë íà çàïàñå ÷òî-òî ëåãêî çàïîìèíàþùååñÿ è íå ñóùåñòâóþùåå òèïà - Èâàíîâ Âèêòîð Ïåòðîâè÷. Åñòåñòâåííî òåõ, êòî óêàçûâàëñÿ â àíêåòàõ, òû äîëæåí îáîçâàòü òàê æå êàê â àíêåòàõ.

4. Êîãäà ó÷èë, ïûòàëñÿ áëèñòàòü ñâîèìè ïîëíûìè îòâåòàìè, íî ðåàëüíî è ñàì ïîòîì ïîíÿë, ÷òî â äàííîì ñëó÷àå íå ñëåäóåò îáñóæäàòü ãóìàíèñòè÷åñêèé ïàôîñ íîâîçåëàíäñêîé ëèòåðàòóðû. Îòâåòû äàâàé íàèáîëåå êîðîòêèìè, ñôîðìóëèðóé ìèíèìàëüíûå ôðàçû è èõ ó÷è. Ìåíüøå ñêàæåøü, ìåíüøå ñïðîñÿò äîïîëíèòåëüíî.

5. Òîðìîçèòü íàäî êàê ìîæíî ìåíüøå (êñòàòè, ïî æèçíè òîæå). Ðåàëüíî ÷òî áû íå ñïðîñèëè, åñëè ïîíèìàåøü, ÷òî âñïîìíèòü ñëîæíî – ïðèäóìûâàé ëþáîé îòâåò (â íîðìàëüíûõ ïðåäåëàõ). Âîîáùå ñòàðàéñÿ ìãíîâåííî îòâå÷àòü íà ëþáóþ ðåïëèêó, è íå òîëüêî ðåïëèêó - íà ëþáîå äåéñòâèå, äâèæåíèå. Îí òåáå DS-êó ïðîòÿãèâàåò òû åìó – Thank you, îí òåáå Show me you student’s book – òû åìó Here you are, îò òåáå ÀÏ×ÊÕÅ! – òû åìó Bless you!!!

6. Åñëè íå ïîíèìàåøü âîïðîñ è ÿâíî ïðè ïåðåñïðîñå íå ïîéìåøü ëó÷øå ïîïðîñè ñêàçàòü íà ðóññêîì, â ýòîì íåò íè÷åãî ñòðàøíîãî, ýòî ëó÷øå ÷åì ïåðåñïðîñèøü, îïÿòü íå äîãîíèøü, çàòåì ïîòóïèøü íåìíîãî ïîêà îí ñàì íå ñêàæåò íà ðóññêîì èëè âîîáùå îòïðàâèò.

7. ×òî êàñàåòñÿ ðàçíûõ ñïðàâîê – íàñ áûëî ÷åëîâåê 30 íè ó êîãî íè÷åãî íå ñïðîñèëè, íå òîëüêî ñïðàâêè – äàæå çà÷åòêè, ïàñïîðòà, ñòóäíè íå ïîêàçûâàëè. Íî ðåàëüíî ëó÷øå ïîäñòðàõîâàòüñÿ.

8. Ðàçëè÷íûå òóïûå âîïðîñû. Íàäî áûòü ãîòîâûì ê òîìó, ÷òî ìîãóò áûòü âîïðîñû, êîòîðûå â òâîåé ãîëîâå íó íèêàê íå âîçíèêíóò äî ïðîõîæäåíèÿ ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ. Íàïðèìåð, â ìîåì ñëó÷àå – ïàðû â ïÿòíèöó, ó íàøåãî ïàðíÿ ñïðàøèâàëè êàêîé ó íåãî ôîòîàïïàðàò, ìîæåò ñïðîñèòü êàê çîâóò ñîñåäêó òåòþ Êëàâó, èëè äîïóñòèì ïîñëå ïÿòè ìèíóò ðàçãîâîðà ñïðîñèòü ïîíèìàåøü ëè òû àíãëèéñêóþ ðå÷ü. Ìîãóò ïåðåñïðàøèâàòü íåñêîëüêî ðàç îäèí âîïðîñ, íè â êîåì ñëó÷àå íå ìåíÿé îòâåò, ñïîêîéíî îòâå÷àé, ðàññ÷èòàíî íà òî, ÷òî ÷åëîâåê ïîäóìàåò: ðàç ñïðàøèâàþò îïÿòü, ÷òî-òî íå òàê è ìåíÿåò îòâåò, à çà ýòî ìîãóò îòêàçàòü, íà îñíîâàíèè òîãî, ÷òî äàåøü ðàçíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ.

9. Î÷åíü âàæíûé âîïðîñ îá îáùåñòâåííîì ìíåíèè.
ÑËÓØÀÉ. Î÷åíü âàæíî ñëóøàòü è àíàëèçèðîâàòü, ÷òî òâîðèòüñÿ â ìàññàõ. Ïðèìåð: íàøè åùå â î÷åðåäè íà óëèöå óçíàëè, ÷òî â òîò äåíü â îäíîì èç îêîí âûäàþò âèçó âñåì, ïîòîì îäíîé èç íàøèõ æåíùèíà â ýòîì îêíå ðàññêàçûâàëà êàêîé óíèâåð îêàí÷èâàëà è ðàçëè÷íûå ôàêòû áèîãðàôèè (íå øó÷ó). Òàê âîò â çàëå ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ îíè âûæäàëè ìîìåíò êîãäà çàêàí÷èâàëàñü î÷åðåäü â äàííîå îêíî è òîëüêî òîãäà ïîøëè ê ïàñïîðòèñòêå ãîâîðèòü ôàìèëèè – îíà èõ îòìåòèëà, îòëîæèëà èõ ïàñïîðòà â ñòîïêó è ïîíåñëà â íóæíîå îêíî. Òàêèì îáðàçîì äàæå ñ ïëîõèì ÿçûêîì ëþäè ïîëó÷èëè âèçó áåç ïðîáëåì. ÍÅ ÑËÓØÀÉ. Íå âåðü áåçîãëÿäíî âñåìó ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò, äóìàé î òîì, ÷òî âàæíî, íå çàöèêëèâàéñÿ. Ïðèìåð: ïîäõîäÿ ê î÷åðåäè íà óëèöå, óâèäåë îäíó èç íàøèõ ÿâíî íå â ëó÷øåì íàñòðîåíèè. Ñïðîñèë â ÷åì ïðîáëåìà, ãîâîðèò, ÷òî ïîâòîðíèêàì ñåãîäíÿ åùå íå îäíîé âèçû íå äàëè (îíà ïîâòîðíèê). ß êàê ïðåäñòàâèë åå ñîñòîÿíèå, ñàì ÷óòü íå ïîïóòàë, íó ïðåäñòàâü íè îäíîìó ÷åëîâåêó çà óòðî, òàê äåïðåñíÿê ìîæåò çàáèòü. Íó, ÿ ãîâîðþ, ìîë âñå áóäåò õîðîøî íå âîëíóéñÿ. Òàê ÿ åå ïîòîì óæå â î÷åðåäè â îêîøêî âèäåë, îíà åùå íå îòîøëà. È âåäü âñå-òàêè ïîëó÷èëà âèçó. Íî îíà ðåàëüíî åå çàðàáîòàëà, ïîøëà â àòàêó è âçÿëà øòóðìîì. Åé ãîâîðÿò – òû â òîì ãîäó ïîçäíî ïðèåõàëà, îíà – à ÿ õîðîøî ó÷óñü, ó ìåíÿ âîò äîêè ðàçíûå åñòü è ñóåò. Ïðîäîëæàåò, ìîë, ÿ âåðíóñü âî âðåìÿ è ò.ä. è ò.ï. Òà åé Listen to me! À íàøà íå óíèìàåòñÿ – à åùå ó ìåíÿ òî è òî... Åé èç îêíà óæå ïî-ðóññêè: Ïîñëóøàéòå ìåíÿ! Íó, òàê îíè áèëèñü è âñå-òàêè ïîëó÷èëà âèçó. Âî êàê! Íî ýòîò ìåòîä íå âñåãäà ïðîêàòèò, ìîãóò ïîñ÷èòàòü íàãëûì. Îíà êñòàòè áûëà â òîì ñàìîì õîðîøåì îêíå. Òàê ÷òî â íàãëóþ ïåðåòü ÿ íå ïðèçûâàþ. À íîìåðà îêîí íå ãîâîðþ ò.ê. ëþäè â íèõ ìîãóò ìåíÿòüñÿ èëè ïîëó÷àòü äðóãèå êîìàíäû (êàê ÿ ñëûøàë â ýòîì îêíå íà ïðîøëîé íåäåëå ìíîãèì îòêàçàëè), è ÿ íå õî÷ó âíåñòè êàêóþ-ëèáî ïóòàíèöó â ìàññû.

10. È åùå òåì êòî ñ ïèñüìàìè ñ ïðîøëîãî ãîäà – îòêàçû ìèíèìàëüíûå. Íî â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå áóäüòå áäèòåëüíû òîâàðèùè!

Ëþáûå áëàãîäàðíîñòè, ïîïðàâêè, âîçìóùåíèÿ âûêëàäûâàéòå íà äàííûé ôîðóì èëè ìûëüòå íà foxne@mail.ru. (åñëè íå ñëîæíî ïðîñüáà âñåì îñòàâëÿòü õîòü êàêîé-òî êîììåíòàðèé). Òàêæå íà ìûëî ìîæíî ïèñàòü, åñëè åñòü äîïîëíèòåëüíûå âîïðîñû, èëè ïðîñòî æåëàíèå ïîîáùàòüñÿ èëè ïîçíàêîìèòüñÿ.

Âñåì óñïåõîâ, See yah in the USA!!!
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MaxiM






: , 20, 2004 10:39am     :

Àíäðåé, ñïàñèáî çà èíôó. ß õîòü è âûøåë èç âîçðàñòà ñòóäåí÷åñêèõ ïðîãðàìì, íî èíôà äëÿ ìåíÿ î÷åíü öåííàÿ. Ïîäêàëûâàþ
Olga
Ýêñïåðò


: 05.03.2003
: 97
: Ðèãà - Ìîñêâà

: , 21, 2004 8:43am     :

ÎÒëè÷íûé ìàòåðèàë, îñîáåííî ñîâåòû ïðî ïîäãîòîâêó ê ñîáñòâåííî èíòåðâüþ - ïðî çàðàíåå ïîäãîòîâëåííûå âîïðîñû è îòâåòû.

Òàê ÷òî êîìó íóæíî, ìîæåòå ïîäãîòîâèòü ñâîè îòâåòû, âûêëàäûâàéòå â English Zone - ïîïðàâèì è îòòî÷èì!
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

: , 21, 2004 9:41am     :

Olga ():
ÎÒëè÷íûé ìàòåðèàë, îñîáåííî ñîâåòû ïðî ïîäãîòîâêó ê ñîáñòâåííî èíòåðâüþ - ïðî çàðàíåå ïîäãîòîâëåííûå âîïðîñû è îòâåòû.

Äà, ìíå òîæå î÷åíü ïîíðàâèëñÿ. Ñêîðåé áû óæå ïðîéòè ñîáåñåäîâàíèå.

Olga ():
Òàê ÷òî êîìó íóæíî, ìîæåòå ïîäãîòîâèòü ñâîè îòâåòû, âûêëàäûâàéòå â English Zone - ïîïðàâèì è îòòî÷èì!

Ýòî õîðîøàÿ èäåÿ, íàäî êàê-íèáóäü çàíÿòüñÿ íà äîñóãå Óëûáêà
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MaxiM






: , 21, 2004 10:51am     :

Andrew ():
Olga ():
ÎÒëè÷íûé ìàòåðèàë, îñîáåííî ñîâåòû ïðî ïîäãîòîâêó ê ñîáñòâåííî èíòåðâüþ - ïðî çàðàíåå ïîäãîòîâëåííûå âîïðîñû è îòâåòû.

Äà, ìíå òîæå î÷åíü ïîíðàâèëñÿ. Ñêîðåé áû óæå ïðîéòè ñîáåñåäîâàíèå.

Olga ():
Òàê ÷òî êîìó íóæíî, ìîæåòå ïîäãîòîâèòü ñâîè îòâåòû, âûêëàäûâàéòå â English Zone - ïîïðàâèì è îòòî÷èì!

Ýòî õîðîøàÿ èäåÿ, íàäî êàê-íèáóäü çàíÿòüñÿ íà äîñóãå Óëûáêà
Äàâàé â èíãëèø çîíå ïðîâåäåì ñîáåñåäîâàíèå, ÿ áóäó ïîñëîì Ñìåõ Ñìåõ Áóäó âîïðîñû çàäàâàòü Ñìåõ Proof :pop: Ïîêà ìåíÿ íå ïîáüþò Ñìåõ Ñìåõ Ñìåõ Ñìåõ
Doxx
US Patriot


: 14.06.2003
: 2082
: Ulyanovsk, Russia

: , 21, 2004 6:45pm     :

Êëàññíî! Áåç ñëîâ.
Âîò îíà ïåðâàÿ "ñòàòèñòèêà".  ñëåäóþùåì ãîäó, âñåì ðåáÿòàì áóäåò ÿâíî ïîïðîùå, äà è â ýòîì, òåì êòî èçó÷èòü äàííóþ ïîäáîðêó Ïîäêàëûâàþ
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Êëàññíî! Áåç ñëîâ.
Âîò îíà ïåðâàÿ "ñòàòèñòèêà".  ñëåäóþùåì ãîäó, âñåì ðåáÿòàì áóäåò ÿâíî ïîïðîùå, äà è â ýòîì, òåì êòî èçó÷èòü äàííóþ ïîäáîðêó Ïîäêàëûâàþ
Ñêîðî ìîæíî áóäåò ñîñòàâëÿòü "ïðàâèëà" ó÷àñòèÿ â ñòóäåí÷åñêèõ ïðîãðàììàõ íà îñíîâå ëè÷íîãî îïûòà.
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: , 22, 2004 6:52pm     :

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×òî-òî ýòîò âîïðîñ ñòàë äåéñòâèòåëüíî àêòóàëåí, ÿ ïîèñêàë íà ñàéòå ÖÌÎ, íî íå íàøåë íè÷åãî ïîäîáíîãî. Íàïèñàë çàïðîñ â ÖÌÎ...

Àíäðåé, åñëè òåáå íå ñëîæíî, äàé ïîæàëóéñòà ìíå çíàòü, ÷òî òåáå â ÖÌÎ îòâåòÿò.

×òî-òî ÿ ñòîðìîçíóë, çàáûë íàïèñàòü.
Äà, äåéñòâèòåëüíî â ýòîì ãîäó, è ÿ óâåðåí è â ïîñëåäóþùèõ òîæå áóäåò òàê, äîêóìåíòû â ïîñîëüñòâî áóäóò ïðèíèìàòü òîëüêî äî 15 àïðåëÿ. Âèäíî ÷òî áû íå áûëî íèêàêèõ çàäåðæåê è âèç â êîíöå èþíÿ, êàê áûâàëî â ïðåäûäóùèå ãîäà.
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