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Wiola Íîâè÷îê
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: , 8, 2004 11:36am : Äåëèìñÿ îïûòîì ïîñòóïëåíèÿ â àìåðèêàíñêèé âóç! |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ìíå ñêîðî èñïîëíèòüñÿ 16 ëåò è ÿ õîòåëà áû ïîñòóïèòü â àìåðèêàíñêèé óíèâåðñèòåò, íà ïåðâûé êóðñ. Óñïåâàåìîñòü ó ìåíÿ íà "îòëè÷íî" è ÿ ìîãó ðàñ÷èòûâàòü íà ôèíàíñîâóþ ïîìîùü. Ìîæåò ëè êòî-íèáóäü ðàññêàçàòü î ñâîåì îïûòå ïîñòóïëåíèÿ? Åñòü ëè ëþäè, ïîñòóïèâùèå ñðàçó íà ïåðâûé êóðñ ( êàê ïëàíèðóþ ÿ ), èëè æå ëó÷øå ïîñòóïàòü ïîñëå 4-îãî êóðñà, êîãäà òû óæå áóäåøü áàêàëàâðîì? Áûëà ëè âûäåëåíà Âàì ñòèïåíäèÿ? Ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå, áóäó î÷åíü ïðèçíàòåëüíà. ![Êëàññíî](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) |
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: 08.03.2003 : 220 : USA
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: , 8, 2004 6:17pm : Re: Äåëèìñÿ îïûòîì ïîñòóïëåíèÿ â àìåðèêàíñêèé âóç! |
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Óñïåâàåìîñòü ó ìåíÿ íà "îòëè÷íî" è ÿ ìîãó ðàñ÷èòûâàòü íà ôèíàíñîâóþ ïîìîùü. |
Wiola, âû íå îáèæàéòåñü, íî óñïåâàåìîñòü íà îòëè÷íî íå ãàðàíèòèðóåò ôèíàíñîâóþ ïîìîùü è óæ òåì áîëåå ñòóäåíòó-èíîñòðàíöó. Èëè âû óæå ïîñòóïèëè â óíèâåðñèòåò è óíèâåð äàë âàì tuition waiver?
Åñëè âû òîëüêî ñîáèðàåòåñü ïîñòóïàòü, òî âàì íóæíî îïðåäåëèòüñÿ ñ óíèâåðñèòåòîì, ñäàòü òåñòû (TOEFL, SAT, etc.). Ïîñëàòü áóìàãè â óíèâåðñèòåòû, è óæ ïî ðåçóëüòàòàì òåñòà è financial need óíèâåðñèòåò ïðåäëîæèò âàì (èëè íå ïðåäëîæèò) scholarship, work-study programs, èëè tuition waivers. Ýòè ïðîãðàììû îòëè÷àþòñÿ îò financial aid, òåì, ÷òî ïðîñòî òàê çà "áåäíîñòü" äåíüãè íà îáó÷åíèå îíè íå äàþò. Äëÿ scholarship, íóæíî çàïîëíèòü êó÷ó àíêåò, ïðèëîæèòü ðåêîìåíäàöèè îò ïðîôåññîðîâ, íàïèñàòü ñî÷èíåíèÿ, îò òîì êàêîé òû õîðîøèé, êàêèå âûñîêèå ó òåáÿ îöåíêè è ò.ä. È òàê êàæäûé ãîä, íàðàâíå ñ äðóãèìè ñòóäåíòàìè.
Íåêîòîðûå óíèâåðñèòåòû íå äàþò international students financial aid âîîáùå:
International students and their families or sponsors must assume all responsibility for student expenses. Financial assistance from the UW is not available to international students. Therefore, it is extremely important that all applicants review their expenses before deciding whether to apply for admission.
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Wiola Íîâè÷îê
: 08.03.2004 : 4 : Moscow
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Äà, êîíå÷íî, ÿ çíàþ, ÷òî øàíñû ïîëó÷èòü ñòèïåíäèþ â Øòàòàõ íå òàê âåëèêè. ß êîíñóëüòèðîâàëàñü ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó â Àìåðèêàíñêîì îáðàçîâàòåëüíîì öåíòðå. Ñïàñèáî çà ñîâåò è ññûëêó.
Åñëè íå ñåêðåò, êàê âû ñàìè ïîñòóïàëè? |
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Äà, êîíå÷íî, ÿ çíàþ, ÷òî øàíñû ïîëó÷èòü ñòèïåíäèþ â Øòàòàõ íå òàê âåëèêè. ß êîíñóëüòèðîâàëàñü ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó â Àìåðèêàíñêîì îáðàçîâàòåëüíîì öåíòðå. Ñïàñèáî çà ñîâåò è ññûëêó.
Åñëè íå ñåêðåò, êàê âû ñàìè ïîñòóïàëè? |
Wiola, ÿ ñàì â Àìåðèêå íå ó÷èëñÿ, ñïðàøèâàé ó Ñëàâû. Âðîäå íà åãî ñàéòå åñòü îïèñàíèå ïîñòóïëåíèÿ ãäå-òî â 36-40 õõ ãëàâàõ çàïèñîê èììèãðàíòà. Wiola, ñêèíü, ïîæàëóéñòà, ññûëêó íà îáðàçîâàòåëüíûé öåíòð. |
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Wiola Íîâè÷îê
: 08.03.2004 : 4 : Moscow
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Åñëè Ñëàâà ýòî Guessst, òî êàê ðàç ó íåãî ÿ è ñïðàøèâàëà
Ññûëêà âîò: http://www.useic.ru/ |
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Oluna Ïòèöà-Ãîâîðóí
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: 07.03.2003 : 931 : Piter-Santa Clara, CA
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Wiola (): |
Åñëè Ñëàâà ýòî Guessst, òî êàê ðàç ó íåãî ÿ è ñïðàøèâàëà ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
Ñëàâà - ýòî Slava ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ In our country we have three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either. - Mark Twain |
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Slava ÍËÎ
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: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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Òààààêêê... Òóò òàêàÿ òåìêà è äàæå óñïåëè ìåíÿ ñþäà ïðèïëåñòè ñ ìîèì ñàéòîì è ïåðåïóòàòü êòî ÿ òàêîé
MaxiM (): |
Wiola, ÿ ñàì â Àìåðèêå íå ó÷èëñÿ, ñïðàøèâàé ó Ñëàâû. Âðîäå íà åãî ñàéòå åñòü îïèñàíèå ïîñòóïëåíèÿ ãäå-òî â 36-40 õõ ãëàâàõ çàïèñîê èììèãðàíòà. Wiola, ñêèíü, ïîæàëóéñòà, ññûëêó íà îáðàçîâàòåëüíûé öåíòð. |
Ñïàñèáî çà ðåêëàìó ìåíÿ Ñåé÷àñ ñàì ïîïûòàëñÿ íàéòè ÷òî ÿ ãäå ïèñÀë, ñëîæíîâàòî ïîëó÷èëîñü. Âñå ðàçáðîñàíî ïî íåñêëüêèì ãëàâàì.
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Åñëè Ñëàâà ýòî Guessst, òî êàê ðàç ó íåãî ÿ è ñïðàøèâàëà |
Ñëàâà - ýòî Slava |
Íó äà ß ýòî ÿ.
Ïî ïîâîäó îòâåòà íà âîïðîñ. Êàê ïîñòóïòü ÷åëîâåêó æèâóùåìó â äàííûé ìîìåíò â Ðîññèè è ïûòàþùåìóñÿ ïîñòóïèòü â àìåð. êîëëåäæ ÿ ïîíÿòèÿ íå èìåþ. ß ñàì ïîñòóïèë â ìåñòíûé óíèâåð ïîñëå ïî÷òè 2-õ ëåò êàê æèâó òóò. È ïîñòóïàë ÿ íà Master degree programm ñ íàëè÷èåì âûñøåãî ðîññèéñêîãî. Òàê ÷òî ÿ íå çíàþ åñëè âàì èíòåðåñåí ýòîò îïûò.
Òàê æå ñåé÷àñ ìîé ðîäíîé áðàò ïîñòóïàåò â óíèâåð íà ïåðâûé êóðñ, íî ïîñëå îêîí÷àíèÿ àìåð. ñðåä. øêîëû è ñ äèïëîìîì î åå îêîí÷àíèè (ýòèì ëåòîì âîîáùå-òî îí çàêàí÷èâàåò). Îïÿòü æå ýòî íåìíîãî äðóãîé ïðîöåññ ïîñòóïëåíèÿ. Åñëè èíòåðåñíî ìîãó è î íåì ðàññêàçàòü òàê êàê î÷åíü âîâëå÷åí ñàì â ýòîò ïðîöåññ óçíàâàíèÿ ÷òî äåëàòü, êàêèå áóìàãè íóæíû è êóäà èõ âîîáùå ïîñûëàòü _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
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Guessst red attention
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Wiola, ÿ ñåé÷àñ çàêàí÷èâàþ áàêàëàâðà â ÑØÀ.  óíèâåðñèòåò ÿ ïîñòóïèëà ïîñëå ÷åòâåðòîãî êóðñà â Ðîññèè. Íî ÿ ïîñòóïàëà êàê permanent resident, íå international student. |
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Wiola Íîâè÷îê
: 08.03.2004 : 4 : Moscow
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Òààààêêê... Òóò òàêàÿ òåìêà è äàæå óñïåëè ìåíÿ ñþäà ïðèïëåñòè ñ ìîèì ñàéòîì è ïåðåïóòàòü êòî ÿ òàêîé
MaxiM (): |
Wiola, ÿ ñàì â Àìåðèêå íå ó÷èëñÿ, ñïðàøèâàé ó Ñëàâû. Âðîäå íà åãî ñàéòå åñòü îïèñàíèå ïîñòóïëåíèÿ ãäå-òî â 36-40 õõ ãëàâàõ çàïèñîê èììèãðàíòà. Wiola, ñêèíü, ïîæàëóéñòà, ññûëêó íà îáðàçîâàòåëüíûé öåíòð. |
Ñïàñèáî çà ðåêëàìó ìåíÿ Ñåé÷àñ ñàì ïîïûòàëñÿ íàéòè ÷òî ÿ ãäå ïèñÀë, ñëîæíîâàòî ïîëó÷èëîñü. Âñå ðàçáðîñàíî ïî íåñêëüêèì ãëàâàì.
Oluna (): |
Wiola (): |
Åñëè Ñëàâà ýòî Guessst, òî êàê ðàç ó íåãî ÿ è ñïðàøèâàëà |
Ñëàâà - ýòî Slava |
Íó äà ß ýòî ÿ.
Ïî ïîâîäó îòâåòà íà âîïðîñ. Êàê ïîñòóïòü ÷åëîâåêó æèâóùåìó â äàííûé ìîìåíò â Ðîññèè è ïûòàþùåìóñÿ ïîñòóïèòü â àìåð. êîëëåäæ ÿ ïîíÿòèÿ íå èìåþ. ß ñàì ïîñòóïèë â ìåñòíûé óíèâåð ïîñëå ïî÷òè 2-õ ëåò êàê æèâó òóò. È ïîñòóïàë ÿ íà Master degree programm ñ íàëè÷èåì âûñøåãî ðîññèéñêîãî. Òàê ÷òî ÿ íå çíàþ åñëè âàì èíòåðåñåí ýòîò îïûò.
Òàê æå ñåé÷àñ ìîé ðîäíîé áðàò ïîñòóïàåò â óíèâåð íà ïåðâûé êóðñ, íî ïîñëå îêîí÷àíèÿ àìåð. ñðåä. øêîëû è ñ äèïëîìîì î åå îêîí÷àíèè (ýòèì ëåòîì âîîáùå-òî îí çàêàí÷èâàåò). Îïÿòü æå ýòî íåìíîãî äðóãîé ïðîöåññ ïîñòóïëåíèÿ. Åñëè èíòåðåñíî ìîãó è î íåì ðàññêàçàòü òàê êàê î÷åíü âîâëå÷åí ñàì â ýòîò ïðîöåññ óçíàâàíèÿ ÷òî äåëàòü, êàêèå áóìàãè íóæíû è êóäà èõ âîîáùå ïîñûëàòü |
ß èçâåíÿþñü íå çíàëà, êòî òàêîé Ñëàâà è ÷òî Guessst ýòî äåâóøêà
Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ âû óæå æèëè ñî ñâîèì áðàòîì â øòàòàõ åùå äî íà÷àëà ó÷åáû?
Êîíå÷íî, ìíå î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî, åñëè ìîæåòå, òî ðàññêàæèòå ïîæàëóñòà, î òîì êàê îí ïîñòóïàåò
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Wiola, ÿ ñåé÷àñ çàêàí÷èâàþ áàêàëàâðà â ÑØÀ.  óíèâåðñèòåò ÿ ïîñòóïèëà ïîñëå ÷åòâåðòîãî êóðñà â Ðîññèè. Íî ÿ ïîñòóïàëà êàê permanent resident, íå international student. |
À äîëãî ó âàñ óøëî âðåìåíè íà òî, ÷òîáû ñîáðàòü âñå íåîáõîäèìûå äîêóìåíòû? |
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MaxiM
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À äîëãî ó âàñ óøëî âðåìåíè íà òî, ÷òîáû ñîáðàòü âñå íåîáõîäèìûå äîêóìåíòû? |
2 ãîäà (øóòêà). |
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Guessst red attention
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Íåò, íå 2 ãîäà, à îêîëî ìåñÿöà. Ìíå èç Ðîññèè òîëüêî íóæíà áûëà àêàäåì ñïðàâêà (3 êîïèè) è íîòàðèàëüíî çàâåðåííûé ïåðåâîä. |
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Oluna Ïòèöà-Ãîâîðóí
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: 07.03.2003 : 931 : Piter-Santa Clara, CA
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Íåò, íå 2 ãîäà, à îêîëî ìåñÿöà. Ìíå èç Ðîññèè òîëüêî íóæíà áûëà àêàäåì ñïðàâêà (3 êîïèè) è íîòàðèàëüíî çàâåðåííûé ïåðåâîä. |
ñòðàííî, à ó ìåíÿ íèêòî íå ïðîñèë íîòàðèàëüíî çàâåðÿòü - ìîæåò, òû àïîñòèëü èìååøü â âèäó? Íî ó ìåíÿ è åãî íå ïðîñèëè. ß ïðîñòî, êîãäà îòñûëàëà íà ýâàëþýéøí äëÿ êîëëåäæà, ñòàâèëà ïå÷àòü ó àìåð. íîòàðèóñà, ÷òî ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî êñåðà ñ îðèãèíàëà è âñå. À â óíèâåð ìåíÿ âîîáùå íè÷åãî íå ïðîñèëè - ñàìè ñäåëàëè êîïèþ ñ îðèãèíàëà è âçÿëè ñäåëàííûé ìíîé àíãëèéñêèé ïåðåâîä. Õîòÿ, êîíå÷íî, ìîæåò, ê íàì ñèíûå òðåáîâàíèÿ, ÷åì ê èíòåðíàøíë. _________________ In our country we have three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either. - Mark Twain |
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Oluna, ÿ íå ïîñòóïàëà êàê international student. À íàòàðèàëüíî çàâåðåííûé ïåðåâîä ó ìåíÿ çàòðåáîâàëà êîíòîðà, êîòîðàÿ evaluation äèïëîìà äåëàëà. Ó íèõ íà web site áûëî íàïèñàíî, ÷òî ïåðåâîäû ïðèíèìàþòñÿ òîëüêî îò ïåðåâîä÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèé. Ñàìîé ïåðåâîäèòü íåëüçÿ - êîíôëèê èíòåðåñîâ. Community college è University ýòèì íå çàíèìàëèñü, èì íóæíû áûëè äîêóìåíòû îò evaluation firm è îðèãèíàë àêàäåì ñïðàâêè â çàïå÷àòàííîì êîíâåðòå ñî øòàìïîì. |
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Oluna Ïòèöà-Ãîâîðóí
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: 07.03.2003 : 931 : Piter-Santa Clara, CA
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Oluna, ÿ íå ïîñòóïàëà êàê international student. À íàòàðèàëüíî çàâåðåííûé ïåðåâîä ó ìåíÿ çàòðåáîâàëà êîíòîðà, êîòîðàÿ evaluation äèïëîìà äåëàëà. Ó íèõ íà web site áûëî íàïèñàíî, ÷òî ïåðåâîäû ïðèíèìàþòñÿ òîëüêî îò ïåðåâîä÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèé. Ñàìîé ïåðåâîäèòü íåëüçÿ - êîíôëèê èíòåðåñîâ. Community college è University ýòèì íå çàíèìàëèñü, èì íóæíû áûëè äîêóìåíòû îò evaluation firm è îðèãèíàë àêàäåì ñïðàâêè â çàïå÷àòàííîì êîíâåðòå ñî øòàìïîì. |
ß è óäèâèëàñü, ÷òî ó òåáÿ âñå òàê ñëîæíî, âåäü òû æå ðåçèäåíò. Âîò è âñå - ó ìåíÿ âñå ïðîùå áûëî, äàæå ñàìà óäèâèëàñü Ãäå áû ÿ èì âêëàäûø äà åùå çàïå÷àòàííûé äà åùå ñ ïåðåâîäîì áû íàøëà ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ In our country we have three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either. - Mark Twain |
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Îíè ñ íà÷àëà õîòåëè ÷òî-áû ìîé óíèâåðñèòåò ïðèñëàë èì àêàäåì. ñïðàâêè. Àãà, êîíå÷íî. ðàçìå÷òàëèñü.  êîíöå êîíöîâ äîãîâîðèëèñü, ÷òî ìîÿ ìàìà âîçüìåò ñïðàâêè, çàïå÷àòàåò, ñõîäèò â äåêàíàò è ïîñòàâèò ïå÷àòè, è ïåðåøëåò âñå ìíå. |
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Oluna Ïòèöà-Ãîâîðóí
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Îíè ñ íà÷àëà õîòåëè ÷òî-áû ìîé óíèâåðñèòåò ïðèñëàë èì àêàäåì. ñïðàâêè. Àãà, êîíå÷íî. ðàçìå÷òàëèñü.  êîíöå êîíöîâ äîãîâîðèëèñü, ÷òî ìîÿ ìàìà âîçüìåò ñïðàâêè, çàïå÷àòàåò, ñõîäèò â äåêàíàò è ïîñòàâèò ïå÷àòè, è ïåðåøëåò âñå ìíå. |
ìíå òîæå òàê ñêàçàëè ñíà÷àëà, íî ÿ ñðàçó èì - íåò âîçìîæíîñòè, Ðîññèÿ òàêîå íå îôôåðèò Ñðàçó æåëàíèå ïðîøëî ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ In our country we have three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either. - Mark Twain |
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MaxiM
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Wiola (): |
À äîëãî ó âàñ óøëî âðåìåíè íà òî, ÷òîáû ñîáðàòü âñå íåîáõîäèìûå äîêóìåíòû? |
2 ãîäà (øóòêà). |
Guessst, èçâèíè, ýòî ÿ Ñëàâå íàïèñàë. |
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Guessst red attention
: 08.03.2003 : 220 : USA
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: , 11, 2004 6:57am : |
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Îíè ñ íà÷àëà õîòåëè ÷òî-áû ìîé óíèâåðñèòåò ïðèñëàë èì àêàäåì. ñïðàâêè. Àãà, êîíå÷íî. ðàçìå÷òàëèñü.  êîíöå êîíöîâ äîãîâîðèëèñü, ÷òî ìîÿ ìàìà âîçüìåò ñïðàâêè, çàïå÷àòàåò, ñõîäèò â äåêàíàò è ïîñòàâèò ïå÷àòè, è ïåðåøëåò âñå ìíå. |
ìíå òîæå òàê ñêàçàëè ñíà÷àëà, íî ÿ ñðàçó èì - íåò âîçìîæíîñòè, Ðîññèÿ òàêîå íå îôôåðèò Ñðàçó æåëàíèå ïðîøëî ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
Ó êîíòîðû â CA íå ïðîøëî. Ïðèøëîñü äîãîâàðèâàòüñÿ. |
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Jasmin Íîâè÷îê
: 11.11.2007 : 7 : Ukraine
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Ðåáÿòà, à ñëîæíî ïîñòóïèòü â óíèâåðñèòåò? Ïî÷èòàâ çäåñü íà ôîðóìå, ÿ ïîíÿëà, ÷òî ýòî âîîáùå íåðåàëüíî è äîðîãî ß õîòåëà ïîñëå èíòåðøèï, êòî íèáóäü óæå ïðîõîäèë ýòî? |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 13, 2007 4:34pm : |
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Jasmin (): |
Ðåáÿòà, à ñëîæíî ïîñòóïèòü â óíèâåðñèòåò? Ïî÷èòàâ çäåñü íà ôîðóìå, ÿ ïîíÿëà, ÷òî ýòî âîîáùå íåðåàëüíî è äîðîãî ß õîòåëà ïîñëå èíòåðøèï, êòî íèáóäü óæå ïðîõîäèë ýòî? |
À ñëîæíî ýòî ñäåëàòü â Óêðàèíå? _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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