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Yura Íîâè÷îê
: 24.03.2004 : 16
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: , 24, 2004 3:59am : You have won a $1600 Travel Shopping Spree ™ |
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Âîò, çàøåë íà îäèí ñàéò è ïîëó÷èë òàêîå:
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Ìîæåò êòî-íèáóäü çíàåò ÷òî ñ ýòèì äåëàòü? |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷

: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 24, 2004 6:22am : |
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Ïîçâîíè, óçíàé, åñëè åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü
Õîòÿ, åñëè ÷åñòíî, ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ýòî î÷åðåäíîé ðåêëàìíûé òðþê. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ  |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð

: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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Âîçìîæíû òðè âàðèàíòà: äâà ðåàëüíûõ è îäèí ôàíòàñòè÷åñêèé.
Ôàíòàñòè÷åñêèé: Ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî âûèãðûø.
Ïåðâûé ðåàëüíûé: Òåëåôîíû ïëàòíûå. Çâîíèøü, à îíè ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ïðîèçîøëà îøèáêà. Íî çà çâîíîê áàáêè ñíèìàþò.
Âòîðîé ðåàëüíûé: Çâîíèøü, à îíè ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ýòî òîëüêî _ïðàâî_ íà âûèãðûø. È íóæíî ÷òî-òî êóïèòü/çàïëàòèòü, ÷òîáû ó÷àñòâîâàòü â ëîòåðåå. Î÷åíü ðàñïðîñòðàíåííàÿ ñõåìà ìàõèíàöèè â Ðîññèè.
È åùå ìîæåò áûòü êîìáèíàöèÿ ïåðâîãî è âòîðîãî âàðèàíòîâ. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷

: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 24, 2004 10:54am : |
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| Òåëåôîíû ïëàòíûå. Çâîíèøü, à îíè ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ïðîèçîøëà îøèáêà. Íî çà çâîíîê áàáêè ñíèìàþò. |
Òàì æå 1-800, òàê ÷òî ýòîò âàðèàíò îòïàäàåò, äóìàþ. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ  |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð

: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 24, 2004 12:13pm : |
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| Òåëåôîíû ïëàòíûå. Çâîíèøü, à îíè ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ïðîèçîøëà îøèáêà. Íî çà çâîíîê áàáêè ñíèìàþò. |
Òàì æå 1-800, òàê ÷òî ýòîò âàðèàíò îòïàäàåò, äóìàþ. |
Íó òîãäà âòîðîé âàðèàíò. Æåëåçíî.  |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷

: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Íó òîãäà âòîðîé âàðèàíò. Æåëåçíî.  |
Ìíå òîæå òàê êàæåòñÿ  _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ  |
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Oluna Ïòèöà-Ãîâîðóí

: 07.03.2003 : 931 : Piter-Santa Clara, CA
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: , 24, 2004 8:05pm : |
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Íàðîä, à ÷òî âîîáùå ïàðèòüñÿ? Ìíå òàêèõ ñîîáùåíèé íà àâòîîòâåò÷èêå îñòàâëÿþò óéìó - íî åñòü êëàññíàÿ êíîïî÷êà DEL
Íè÷åãî áåñïëàòíîãî íåò, êàê ãîâîðèë Ãîðüêèé â "Íà äíå" (çà äîñëîâíîñòü íå ðó÷àþñü) - çà âñå, ÷òî ÷åëîâåê áåðåò, îí ïëàòèò: ðóêàìè, (÷òî-òî òàì åùå) - ïîðîé æèçíüþ (ñëîâà Êëåùà). _________________ In our country we have three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either. - Mark Twain |
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Slava ÍËÎ

: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 24, 2004 11:15pm : |
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Íàðîä! À íèêòî íå äóìàë ÷òî ýòî ðåêëàìà ýòîãî òåëåôîíà íà íàøåì ôîðóìå?  _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Yura Íîâè÷îê
: 24.03.2004 : 16
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: , 25, 2004 1:27am : |
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| Òåëåôîíû ïëàòíûå. Çâîíèøü, à îíè ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ïðîèçîøëà îøèáêà. Íî çà çâîíîê áàáêè ñíèìàþò. |
Òàì æå 1-800, òàê ÷òî ýòîò âàðèàíò îòïàäàåò, äóìàþ. |
Ìîæåò îíè ñíèìàþò áàáêè ñ òåõ, êòî çâîíèò íå èç ÑØÀ? : |
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Yura Íîâè÷îê
: 24.03.2004 : 16
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: , 25, 2004 2:01am : |
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Íàðîä! À íèêòî íå äóìàë ÷òî ýòî ðåêëàìà ýòîãî òåëåôîíà íà íàøåì ôîðóìå?  |
Óðà!!! Ìåíÿ ðàñêóñèëè!!!
À åñëè ñåðüåçíî òî âîò ÷òî òàì åùå âñïëûâàëî:
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There is no catch!
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Ìîæåò åñëè ÿ ïîçâîíþ òî ñìîãó ñýêîíîìèòü íà îòäûõå âî Ôëîðèäå èëè íà Áàãàìàõ? Âîò òîëüêî äåíåã íà ïîåçäêó âñå ðàâíî íåò.  |
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Yura Íîâè÷îê
: 24.03.2004 : 16
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: , 25, 2004 2:47am : |
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Íàðîä, à ÷òî âîîáùå ïàðèòüñÿ? Ìíå òàêèõ ñîîáùåíèé íà àâòîîòâåò÷èêå îñòàâëÿþò óéìó - íî åñòü êëàññíàÿ êíîïî÷êà DEL
Íè÷åãî áåñïëàòíîãî íåò, êàê ãîâîðèë Ãîðüêèé â "Íà äíå" (çà äîñëîâíîñòü íå ðó÷àþñü) - çà âñå, ÷òî ÷åëîâåê áåðåò, îí ïëàòèò: ðóêàìè, (÷òî-òî òàì åùå) - ïîðîé æèçíüþ (ñëîâà Êëåùà). |
Îäíàêî ñòðàøíî. Êàê áû íå ñòàòü õàëÿâùèêîì. Åñëè ýòî ïðî÷òåò âåðóþùèé ÷åëîâåê, òî ïóñòü ïîìîëèòñÿ çà ñïàñåíèå äóø âñåõ âûèãðàâøèõ â ëîòåðåþ. Èì ýòî ïðèãîäèòñÿ. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷

: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 25, 2004 3:30am : |
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Íàðîä! À íèêòî íå äóìàë ÷òî ýòî ðåêëàìà ýòîãî òåëåôîíà íà íàøåì ôîðóìå?  |
ß ïîíà÷àëó, îñîáåííî êàê óâèäåë çàãîëîâîê òîïèêà, òàê è ïîäóìàë è óæå áûëî õîòåë óäàëèòü, êàê ïîäóìàë – íåóæåëè íàéäåòñÿ ìíîãî ëþäåé, âåðÿùèõ â ïîäîáíóþ ÷óøü è ñòàíóò çâîíèòü çà âûèãðûøåì?  _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ  |
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Slava ÍËÎ

: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 25, 2004 3:59am : |
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Íàðîä! À íèêòî íå äóìàë ÷òî ýòî ðåêëàìà ýòîãî òåëåôîíà íà íàøåì ôîðóìå?  |
ß ïîíà÷àëó, îñîáåííî êàê óâèäåë çàãîëîâîê òîïèêà, òàê è ïîäóìàë è óæå áûëî õîòåë óäàëèòü, êàê ïîäóìàë – íåóæåëè íàéäåòñÿ ìíîãî ëþäåé, âåðÿùèõ â ïîäîáíóþ ÷óøü è ñòàíóò çâîíèòü çà âûèãðûøåì?  |
Çíàåøü òàêèå ëþäè åñòü. ß äàæå çíàþ òåõ êòî ñïðàøèâàë ÷àñòî îáî âñåõ ýòèì ñïàì ïèñüìàõ åñëè ýòî èëè òî ïðåäëîæåíèå ðåàëüíî...
ß äóìàë ýòî ÿñíî êàê äåíü âñÿ ýòà çàäóìêà è ÷òî âñå ýòî íàäî óäàëÿòü èç ÿùèêà íå çàäóìûâàÿñü _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Slava ÍËÎ

: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 25, 2004 4:20am : |
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Íàðîä! À íèêòî íå äóìàë ÷òî ýòî ðåêëàìà ýòîãî òåëåôîíà íà íàøåì ôîðóìå?  |
Óðà!!! Ìåíÿ ðàñêóñèëè!!!
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Ýòî áûëî íåïðîñòî íî ÿ ñòàðàëñÿ
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À åñëè ñåðüåçíî òî âîò ÷òî òàì åùå âñïëûâàëî:
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There is no catch!
Resorts and hotels are operating at only a 50-60% occupancy at the moment. They are desperate for travelers. They would rather have someone stay almost free than not stay at all. In other words, the resorts are sponsoring your $1600 Travel Shopping Spree!
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Ìîæåò åñëè ÿ ïîçâîíþ òî ñìîãó ñýêîíîìèòü íà îòäûõå âî Ôëîðèäå èëè íà Áàãàìàõ? Âîò òîëüêî äåíåã íà ïîåçäêó âñå ðàâíî íåò.  |
À áåñïëàòíûé ñûð áûâàåò òîëüêî â ìûøåëîâêàõ. Õîòÿ íàâåðíîå â ÑØÀ è òàì îí íå áåñïëàòíûé. Ïîòîìó êàê âñåãäà â ëþáîé ðåêëàìå â ÑØÀ åñòü fine print (ìåëêèé øðèôò) â êîòîðîì íàïèñàíî íà êàêèõ óñëîâèÿõ âû ìîæåòå ïîëó÷èòü âñå ýòî áåñïëàòíî  _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà

: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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Äà ýòèõ ïñåâäî-âûèãðûøåé "4 day/3 night cruise" è ò.ä. òóò ïðóä ïðóäè. Äî ñèõ ïîð ïîïàäàëèñü ñëåäóþùèå ðàçíîâèäíîñòè.
Êóïîí íà 1000$+ íà êðóèç è ò.ä. Catch - êðóèç ïî-íîðìàëüíîìó ñòîèò, íàïðèìåð, 1500$. Ñ ýòèì êóïîíîì îíè åãî ïðîäàþò âàì çà 2500$ - 1000$ = 1500$ - òå æå ÿéöà, òîëüêî â ïðîôèëü
Íàçîéëèâûå çâîíêè ïî òåëåôîíó: "Âû âûèãðàëè ïîåçäêó â Ëàñ Âåãàñ / Îðëàíäî, âàì íàäî òîëüêî ïðîñëóøàòü 2-÷àñîâóþ ïðåçåíòàöèþ". Ñåðèþ "South Park" ïðî Aspen êòî-íèáóäü ñìîòðåë? Ýòî èç òîé æå îïåðû.  MN â ãàçåòå áûëà ñòàòüÿ æóðíàëèñòà, êîòîðûé òàêè ïîøåë íà "ïðåçåíòàöèþ". Êîðî÷å â òå÷åíèå áîëåå 2-õ ÷àñîâ î÷åíü àãðåññèâíî ïûòàþòñÿ âïàðèòü êàêóþ-òî ôèãíþ. À áåñïëàòíàÿ ïîåçäêà îêàçûâàåòñÿ íå ñîâñåì áåñïëàòíîé - êàêóþ-òî 100$ processing fee âñå ðàâíî íàäî çàïëàòèòü. Ïëþñ òàì ñòîëüêî îãðàíè÷åíèé (íàïðèìåð, ïî äàòàì), ÷òî âñå ýòî ïðîñòî òåðÿåò ñìûñë, îñîáåííî äëÿ àìåðèêàíöåâ ñ èõ êîðîòêèìè îòïóñêàìè. |
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