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L-vira Ãðàæäàíî÷êà ìèðà
: 05.09.2003 : 909 : Kazan, Ru
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: , 21, 2004 6:18pm : Äîíîðñòâî |
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Ó ìåíÿ òàêîé âîïðîñ, íàâåðíîå â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü ê æèâóùèì â ÑØÀ
Íà îáðàòíîé ñòîðîíå ID åñòü íåáîëüøàÿ ôîðìî÷êà, ñïðàøèâàþùàÿ õîòèòå ëè âû áûòü äîíîðîì ïîñëå âàøåé ñìåðòè - êòî-íèòü ïîñòàâèë ïîäïèñü?êðåñòèê? Ìíå ñêàçàîè, ÷òî ýòîãî äåëàñü íå íóæíî, òàê êàê åñòü îïàñíîñòü, ÷òî òåáÿ óéäóò ðàíüøå - èìåííî èç-çà ýòîãî?
È âåðèòüñÿ è íå î÷åíü _________________ Happiness is a state of mind! |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 21, 2004 8:42pm : Re: Äîíîðñòâî |
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Ìíå ñêàçàîè,... ÷òî òåáÿ óéäóò ðàíüøå |
À êòî - íå ñêàçàëè? _________________
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 22, 2004 1:50am : |
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Ó ìåíÿ åñòü ïîäîçðåíèå ÷òî êîãäà òû áóäåøü â ñîâñåì êðèòè÷åñêîì ñîñòîÿíèè ïîñëå àâàðèè òî òåáÿ íå ñèëüíî áóäóò ñïàñàòü. Òàê êàê îðãàíû íóæíû ñâåæèè âîò è ïîëó÷àòñÿ êîãäà óìðåøü. À òî åùå ñïàñàòü, òðóäèòüñÿ ìåäèêàìåíòû òðàòèòü. À òóò áàö è êó÷êà íîâûõ îðãàíîâ äëÿ íîâûõ îïåðàöèè è áîëüøèõ äåíåã. Ïîòîìó êàê âñÿ ìåäèöèíà ýòî äåíüãè â ïåðâóþ è îñíîâíóþ î÷åðåäü. À ïîòîì óæå ëþäè ñ èõíèì çäîðîâüåì _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Ane Îïòèìèñòêà
: 19.05.2004 : 348
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: , 22, 2004 3:29am : Re: Äîíîðñòâî |
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Ó ìåíÿ òàêîé âîïðîñ, íàâåðíîå â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü ê æèâóùèì â ÑØÀ
Íà îáðàòíîé ñòîðîíå ID åñòü íåáîëüøàÿ ôîðìî÷êà, ñïðàøèâàþùàÿ õîòèòå ëè âû áûòü äîíîðîì ïîñëå âàøåé ñìåðòè - êòî-íèòü ïîñòàâèë ïîäïèñü?êðåñòèê? Ìíå ñêàçàîè, ÷òî ýòîãî äåëàñü íå íóæíî, òàê êàê åñòü îïàñíîñòü, ÷òî òåáÿ óéäóò ðàíüøå - èìåííî èç-çà ýòîãî?
È âåðèòüñÿ è íå î÷åíü |
Îé, óæàñû êàêèå _________________ "Êîãäà îäíà äâåðü ñ÷àñòüÿ çàêðûâàåòñÿ, îòêðûâàåòñÿ äðóãàÿ; íî ìû ÷àñòî íå çàìå÷àåì åå, óñòàâèâøèñü âçãëÿäîì â çàêðûòóþ äâåðü"
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Guessst red attention
: 08.03.2003 : 220 : USA
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: , 22, 2004 5:40am : |
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Slava, íàñ÷åò íå ñïàñóò, òî ýòî íå òàê. Êàæäûé äîêòîð çàáîòèòñÿ î ñâîåé .... ðåïóòàöèè. Áîÿçíü being sued .... ïîíèìàøü....
Äàæå åñëè âû îòìåòèòå, ÷òî õîòèòå áûòü äîíîðîì, â ñëó÷àå âàøåé ñìåðòè, ñíà÷àëà ñïðîñÿò ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Åñëè íå ñîãëàñÿòñÿ, òî íèêòî íå áóäåò íè÷åãî âûðåçàòü, íåñìîòðÿ íà ñîîòâåòñâóþùþþ ïîìåòêó â driver's license. Íóæíû äîêóìåíòû ïî ñåðüåçíåå, ÷åì îòìåòêà â ïðàâàõ. |
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 22, 2004 10:07pm : |
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Slava, íàñ÷åò íå ñïàñóò, òî ýòî íå òàê. Êàæäûé äîêòîð çàáîòèòñÿ î ñâîåé .... ðåïóòàöèè. Áîÿçíü being sued .... ïîíèìàøü....
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À ýòî íå ôàêò ÷òî èõ áóäóò ñóäèòü. Ïîòîìó êàê îíè ñêàæóò ÷òî ñäåëàëè âñå ÷òî ìîãëè íî ñïàñòè íå óäàëîñü. À åùå èíîãäà ïðîñÿò áóìàãè ïîäïèñàòü êîãäà èäåøü íà îïåðàöèþ ÷òî åñëè ÷òî òî îíè òóò íå ïðè÷åì. Ìîÿ òåòÿ òàêóþ ïîäïèñûâàëà êîãäà äÿäþ âåçëè íà îïåðàöèþ. _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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: , 26, 2004 10:44pm : |
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Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ýòî óæå ïàðàíîéÿ. Åñëè ïîïàäåòñÿ òàêîé âðà÷-âðåäèòåëü, òàê îí âàñ ìîæåò âíå çàâèñèìîñòè îò êðåñòèêà íà ID íà òîò ñâåò îòïðàâèòü. Òîëüêî áåç êðåñòèêà ïðîñòî òàê äóáà äàøü, à ñ êðåñòèêîì ìîæåò õîòü êîìó-òî äðóãîìó æèçíü ñïàñåøü. Âîîáùå IMHO ó êàæäîãî îïðåäåëåí ñâîé ÷àñ è åñëè óæ îí ïðîáüåò, òî íèêàêîé ID íå ïîìîæåò, ê ñîæàëåíèþ.
À åñëè ãîâîðèòü îá Àìåðèêå, òî íà çàï÷àñòè âàñ åùå âåðíåå ïîøëþò áåç ìåäèöèíñêîé ñòðàõîâêè. |
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Vika Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 03.03.2003 : 168 : Ðîññèÿ, Èðêóòñê
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: , 28, 2004 12:09am : |
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Helen_NJ (): |
Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ýòî óæå ïàðàíîéÿ. Åñëè ïîïàäåòñÿ òàêîé âðà÷-âðåäèòåëü, òàê îí âàñ ìîæåò âíå çàâèñèìîñòè îò êðåñòèêà íà ID íà òîò ñâåò îòïðàâèòü. Òîëüêî áåç êðåñòèêà ïðîñòî òàê äóáà äàøü, à ñ êðåñòèêîì ìîæåò õîòü êîìó-òî äðóãîìó æèçíü ñïàñåøü. Âîîáùå IMHO ó êàæäîãî îïðåäåëåí ñâîé ÷àñ è åñëè óæ îí ïðîáüåò, òî íèêàêîé ID íå ïîìîæåò, ê ñîæàëåíèþ.
À åñëè ãîâîðèòü îá Àìåðèêå, òî íà çàï÷àñòè âàñ åùå âåðíåå ïîøëþò áåç ìåäèöèíñêîé ñòðàõîâêè. |
À ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî íåò ðàçíèöû, ÷òî ñäåëàþò ñ òâîèì òåëîì ïîñëå ñìåðòè. ß áû õîòåëà, ÷òîáû ìåíÿ ïîñëå ñìåðòè ðàñòåðëè â ïîðîøîê ò.å. êðèìèðîâàëè, íî ýòî åùå íå òî÷íî. Íî ìíå áûëî áû íå æàëêî îòäàòü êàêèå íèáóäü ÷àñòè òåëà. |
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Yura Íîâè÷îê
: 24.03.2004 : 16
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: , 28, 2004 1:04am : |
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ß äóìàþ, ÷òî äîíîðñòâî ìîæåò áûòü è êîñâåííûì. Ðàçâå îðãàíû Ïàâëà Êîð÷àãèíà íå ïîøëè âìåñòå ñ äðîâàìè íà îáîãðåâ ãîðîäà? Âîçìîæíî äàæå, ÷òî âñå áîëåçíè êîòîðûå ïðèêëþ÷àþòñÿ ñ ëþäüìè - ýòî ñâîåîáðàçíîå äîíîðñòâî, âñëåäñòâèè íåïðàâèëüíîé îðãàíèçàöèè æèçíè. À âîîáùå âñå ýòî òàê ñëîæíî, ÷òî ìîæíî öåëóþ äèññåðòàöèþ íàïèñàòü èëè ðåâîëþöèþ óñòðîèòü. :) |
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 28, 2004 2:46am : |
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èëè ðåâîëþöèþ óñòðîèòü. |
Âîò íàì äëÿ ñ÷àñòüÿ åùå îäíîãî Ëåíèíà íå õâàòàëî :kosyak: _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 28, 2004 3:06am : |
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À ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî íåò ðàçíèöû, ÷òî ñäåëàþò ñ òâîèì òåëîì ïîñëå ñìåðòè. ß áû õîòåëà, ÷òîáû ìåíÿ ïîñëå ñìåðòè ðàñòåðëè â ïîðîøîê ò.å. êðèìèðîâàëè, íî ýòî åùå íå òî÷íî. Íî ìíå áûëî áû íå æàëêî îòäàòü êàêèå íèáóäü ÷àñòè òåëà. |
I cant believe it! Íàêîíåö òî ìû ñ Âèêîé õîòü â ÷åì òî â ìíåíèÿõ ñîøëèñü! Êàê ãîâîðèòñÿ, ÏÏÊÑ! Òî åñòü êîãäà ÿ óìðó ìîå ìåðòâîå òåëî êî ìíå áóäåò èìåòü ñòîëüêî æå îòíîøåíèÿ, ñêîëüêî, ñêàæåì, ìîé ïèñüìåííûé ñòîë - ïðîñòî âåùü. _________________
: Debaser (, 28, 2004 4:00am), 1 |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 28, 2004 3:22am : |
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Yura (): |
ß äóìàþ, ÷òî äîíîðñòâî ìîæåò áûòü è êîñâåííûì. Ðàçâå îðãàíû Ïàâëà Êîð÷àãèíà íå ïîøëè âìåñòå ñ äðîâàìè íà îáîãðåâ ãîðîäà? |
Íåò íó ïðè ÷åì òóò Ïàâêà Êîð÷àãèí? Êàêîé ãîðîä íà ôèã? Êàê òàì: êàçàëîñü áû - ïðè ÷åì òóò Áèëë Ãåéòñ
Yura (): |
Âîçìîæíî äàæå, ÷òî âñå áîëåçíè êîòîðûå ïðèêëþ÷àþòñÿ ñ ëþäüìè - ýòî ñâîåîáðàçíîå äîíîðñòâî, âñëåäñòâèè íåïðàâèëüíîé îðãàíèçàöèè æèçíè. À âîîáùå âñå ýòî òàê ñëîæíî, ÷òî ìîæíî öåëóþ äèññåðòàöèþ íàïèñàòü èëè ðåâîëþöèþ óñòðîèòü. |
Âîò ýòî âîîáùå - 5 áàëëîâ. Íó äàâàéòå, äàâàéòå ïðîäîëæèì, ÷åãî óæ òàì. Çíà÷èò ïåðâûì äåëå â ÑÏÈÄå âèíîâàòû ïåäåðàñòû, â äðóãèõ ÇÏÏ - âèäèìî ïðîñòèòóòêè. Åâðåè âèíîâàòû â îòñóòñòâèè âîäû â êðàíå, äà è âîîáùå îíè êðîâü õðèñòèàíñêèõ ìëàäåíöåâ ïüþò. Îñòàåòñÿ ñäåëàòü ïîñëåäíèé øàã. Ðàç âñå îíè çàðàçó ýòó âñþ ïåðåíîñÿò - íàäî íîñèòåëåé çàðàçû óñòðàíèòü. Ïðî äèññåðòàöèþ ÿ íå çíàþ, à âîò êíèæêó íà òàêèõ èäåÿõ íàïèñàëè óæå. Ìàéí Êàìïô íàçûâàåòñÿ.
My point is: who are you to judge these people? What makes you think you can point fingers and say who is right, and who is wrong and therefore punished? _________________
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Guessst red attention
: 08.03.2003 : 220 : USA
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: , 28, 2004 6:48am : |
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who are you to judge these people? What makes you think you can point fingers and say who is right, and who is wrong and therefore punished? |
Prof..... take it easy..... òû êñòàòè, professor-to-be êàêîé íàóêè? C àëüòåðíàòèâíûì ÷åëîâåêîì âåäåøü áåñåäó âñå-òàêè (õîðîøî, ÷òî ìåíÿ õîòü â ñîñåäíåé òåìå ïðîñâåòèëè, êòî òàêèå àëüòåðíàòèâíûå ëþäè. Íè÷åãî îáùåãî ñ alternative lifestyles ìåæäó ïðî÷èì ) |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 28, 2004 1:06pm : |
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òû êñòàòè, professor-to-be êàêîé íàóêè? |
Physics, as my signature says Specifically, applied nuclear physics. My hope though is that I would find a position in industry. Being a prof is way too difficult for the low pay he gets. Besides, I have very low tolerance for stupid people, which eventually I would have to deal with in academic environment. Íó ñíîá ÿ â íåêîòîðîì ñìûñëå _________________
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Yura Íîâè÷îê
: 24.03.2004 : 16
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: , 30, 2004 12:29am : |
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Íåò íó ïðè ÷åì òóò Ïàâêà Êîð÷àãèí? |
Íó, îí ïîòåðÿë çäîðîâüå, ïðîêëàäûâàÿ äîðîãó äëÿ äîñòàâêè äðîâ â çàìåðçàþùèé ãîðîä. Ñëåäîâàòåëüíî åãî çäîðîâüå ïðåîáðàçîâàëîñü â îáîãðåâ äîìîâ. Ëîãè÷íî. Íî òîãäà áûëà ãðàæäàíñêàÿ âîéíà. À âî ÷òî ñåé÷àñ ïðåîáðàçîâûâàåòñÿ çäîðîâüå ëþäåé? Âîò èíòåðåñíûé âîïðîñ. È êàê ýòîãî èçáåæàòü?
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Âîò ýòî âîîáùå - 5 áàëëîâ. |
Âàó Íåóæåëè ÿ âûäàë íàñòîëüêî ñèëüíóþ ìûñëü, ÷òî äëÿ åå íåéòðàëèçàöèè ïîòðåáîâàëèñü ïåäåðàñòû, ïðîñòèòóòêè, åâðåè è íàöèñòû âìåñòå âçÿòûå? Îäíàêî. À ÿ òî äóìàë, ÷òî ëîãè÷íûì çàâåðøåíèåì ìîåé ìûñëè áóäåò óâåëè÷åíèå ñâîáîäû âûáîðà. |
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L-vira Ãðàæäàíî÷êà ìèðà
: 05.09.2003 : 909 : Kazan, Ru
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: , 30, 2004 2:02pm : |
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Ó ìåíÿ íåò ñëîâ...ÿ êîíå÷íî òîæå çà äîíîðñòâî äâóìÿ ðóêàìè, íî êðåñòèê ÿ íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé íå ïîñòàâèëà... _________________ Happiness is a state of mind! |
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