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Arthur Gorlov
Íîâè÷îê


: 12.07.2005
: 7
: Allendale, MI, USA

: , 12, 2005 3:48am     : Ïîñòóïëåíèå ó óíèâåð è ïðîáëåìû ñ J-1

Õî÷ó ïîñòóïèòü â óíèâåðñèòåò Indiana State University
http://www.indstate.edu/schbus/mba/apply.html

Ñåé÷àñ íàõîæóñü â ÑØÀ íà âèçå J-2 (dependent)
2 Year Rule Does NOT Apply, exp. date 7 oct. 2005

 ïðîøëîì ãîäó áûë â ÑØÀ ïî âèçå J-1
2 Year Rule Does Apply

Ïîñëå âèçû J-1 îòáûë â Ðîññèè 7 ìåñÿöåâ è ïîëó÷èë J-2

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Èç-çà ìîåé ñòàðîé âèçû J-1 ÿ íå ìîãó òåïåðü ïîìåíÿòü ñòàòóñ âíóòðè ÑØÀ.  Ðîññèþ åõàòü íå õî÷åòñÿ, òàì àðìèÿ.

Âîïðîñû:

1. Ìîæíî ëè ïîäàòü íà ãîñòåâóþ âèçó â Êàíàäó, âûåõàòü òóäà è òàì ïîäàòü íà âèçó F-1 â usa?

2. Êàê íå âåðíóòüñÿ â Ðîññèþ?
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Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 12, 2005 4:38am     : Re: Ïîñòóïëåíèå ó óíèâåð è ïðîáëåìû ñ J-1

Arthur Gorlov ():

 Ðîññèþ åõàòü íå õî÷åòñÿ, òàì àðìèÿ.

Âîïðîñû:

1. Ìîæíî ëè ïîäàòü íà ãîñòåâóþ âèçó â Êàíàäó, âûåõàòü òóäà è òàì ïîäàòü íà âèçó F-1 â usa?

2. Êàê íå âåðíóòüñÿ â Ðîññèþ?

1. Ìîæíî ïîïðîáîâàòü, âñå ðàâíî òåáå òåðÿòü îñîáî íå÷åãî, ñòàòóñ çàêàí÷èâàåòñÿ
2. Ìîæíî âåðíóòüñÿ â Ðîññèþ è îòòóäà ïîëó÷àòü F1

À âîîáùå åñëè òû åùå òîëüêî ÕÎ×ÅØÜ ïîñòóïàòü, òî êõì, ïîåçä äëÿ èíîñòðàííûõ ñòóäåíòîâ óøåë åùå çèìîé. Òåïåðü òû ñìîæåøü ïîñòóïèòü òîëüêî íà îñåíü 2006 ãîäà, à êàê ÿ ïîíèìàþ ñòàòóñ ó òåáÿ ýòîé îñåíüþ çàêàí÷èâàåòñÿ, ïîýòîìó íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿòíî êàê òû ýòó ïðîáëåìó ðåøàòü áóäåøü - F1 äàþò òîëüêî òåì êòî óæå ïîñòóïèë.
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Êëàññíî!
Arthur Gorlov
Íîâè÷îê


: 12.07.2005
: 7
: Allendale, MI, USA

: , 12, 2005 2:12pm     :

Íåêîòîðûå óíèâåðû ïðèíèìàþò êàê ñ îñåíè òàê è ñ çèìû.
 òîì óíèâåðå êóäà ÿ õî÷ó ïîñòóïàòü äåäëàéí íà ïîäà÷ó äîêóìåíòîâ - 1 íîÿáðÿ, íà÷àëî ó÷åáû - 1 äåêàáðÿ.
Slava
ÍËÎ


: 10.03.2003
: 4182
: at this moment Stamford CT

: , 12, 2005 2:45pm     :

Arthur Gorlov ():
Íåêîòîðûå óíèâåðû ïðèíèìàþò êàê ñ îñåíè òàê è ñ çèìû.
 òîì óíèâåðå êóäà ÿ õî÷ó ïîñòóïàòü äåäëàéí íà ïîäà÷ó äîêóìåíòîâ - 1 íîÿáðÿ, íà÷àëî ó÷åáû - 1 äåêàáðÿ.

Èìåííî äëÿ èíîñòðàííîãî ñòóäåíòà? Ïîòîìó êàê ýòî áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà ñðîêè äëÿ ìåñòíîãî (òî åñòü ó êîòîðîãî íåò âèçîâûõ ïðîáëåì) ñòóäåíòà
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Arthur Gorlov
Íîâè÷îê


: 12.07.2005
: 7
: Allendale, MI, USA

: , 12, 2005 3:23pm     :

ß çâîíèë â ýòîò óíèâåð, îíè ñêàçàëè, ÷òî ïðèìóò ñ çèìû.
À ñêîëüêî îáû÷íî çàíèìàåò ïðîöåññ âûäà÷è âèçû â ñëó÷àå ïîñòóïëåíèÿ â óíèâåð?
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Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 12, 2005 5:32pm     :

Arthur Gorlov ():
ß çâîíèë â ýòîò óíèâåð, îíè ñêàçàëè, ÷òî ïðèìóò ñ çèìû.
À ñêîëüêî îáû÷íî çàíèìàåò ïðîöåññ âûäà÷è âèçû â ñëó÷àå ïîñòóïëåíèÿ â óíèâåð?

Êàê îáû÷íî, îò 1 äíÿ äî 6 ìåñÿöåâ, â çàâèñèìîñòè îò àäìèíèñòðàòèâíîé ïðîâåðêè. Nà âèçó ëó÷øå âñåãî ïîäàâàòü ìåñÿöà çà 3 äî íà÷àëà ó÷åáû. Òû óâåðåí ÷òî ó÷åáà 1 Äåêàáðÿ íà÷èíàåöÿ? Âî âñåx àìåðèêàíñêèx óíèâåðñèòåòàx âðîäå êàê ïåðåðûâ ìåæäó ñåìåñòðàìè ïðèxîäèöÿ íà Christmas.
È çäåñü âðîäå íàïèñàíî ÷òî ñ 9 ßíâàðÿ...
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Êëàññíî!
Arthur Gorlov
Íîâè÷îê


: 12.07.2005
: 7
: Allendale, MI, USA

: , 13, 2005 12:20am     :

äà òû ïðàâ, ÿ íå òóäà ïîñìîòðåë. 1 äåêàáðÿ - äåäëàéí íà ïîäà÷ó äîê-òîâ, à íå íà÷àëî ó÷åáû.

http://www.indstate.edu/join_us/admissions.htm

Êàê óçíàòü îòâåò íà âîïðîñ 1 òî÷íî, ÷òîáû ïîòîì íå ïðîëåòåòü?
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Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 13, 2005 12:48am     :

Arthur Gorlov ():
äà òû ïðàâ, ÿ íå òóäà ïîñìîòðåë. 1 äåêàáðÿ - äåäëàéí íà ïîäà÷ó äîê-òîâ, à íå íà÷àëî ó÷åáû.

http://www.indstate.edu/join_us/admissions.htm

Êàê óçíàòü îòâåò íà âîïðîñ 1 òî÷íî, ÷òîáû ïîòîì íå ïðîëåòåòü?

Íó òû íàâåðíîå ñàì ïîíèìàåøü, ÷òî çàðàíåå íå óçíàòü íèêàê. ß ñëûøàë ïðî âñÿêèå ñëó÷àè - è ÷òî äàâàëè âèçó â òîò æå äåíü, è ÷òî â Ðîññèþ îòïðàâëÿëè, àíóëèðîâàâ àìåðèêàíñêóþ âèçó, è ÷òî äàâàëè ÷åðåç 2 íåäåëè...
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Dron
Íîâè÷îê


: 09.07.2005
: 21

: , 13, 2005 4:19pm     :

À òû ñäåëàé ñåáå ïîëè÷åñêîå óáåæèùå!!! Ìîãó ïîäñêàçàòü ê êîìó îáðàùàòüñÿ!
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Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


: 28.03.2003
: 941
: Cleveland, OH

: , 13, 2005 4:57pm     :

Dron ():
À òû ñäåëàé ñåáå ïîëè÷åñêîå óáåæèùå!!! Ìîãó ïîäñêàçàòü ê êîìó îáðàùàòüñÿ!

Òû áû åùå ïîñîâåòîâàë â ôèêòèâíûé áðàê âñòóïèòü Íå çíàþ
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Dron
Íîâè÷îê


: 09.07.2005
: 21

: , 13, 2005 7:12pm     :

Òîæå ñïîñîá!!!Êëàññíî! Íî ñòîèò ðàçà â 2-3 äîðîæå Óëûáêà
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Arthur Gorlov
Íîâè÷îê


: 12.07.2005
: 7
: Allendale, MI, USA

: , 13, 2005 10:41pm     :

èç ïèñüìà òîãî æå ëîéåðà.

Could marriage be a way of solving the problem with my son's status
and increase the possibility that he will be able to stay in the USA and study here?


Marriage to a U.S. citizen may provide a basis to apply for a waiver
of the requirement. However, this is a difficult basis upon which to apply
for a waiver and the processing of an application for waiver based on a
claim of exceptional and unusual hardship to a US citizen spouse if your
son had to return home to fulfill the requirement takes 1-2 years which
obviously doesn't help here.


Äðóãîé þðèñò ïèøåò:

Marriage to a US citizen would produce a logic for seeking
the J waiver; he might be able to gain cooperation from the
Russian Embassy for a "No Objection Waiver". Without a
J waiver, any change of status through USCIS could be
denied.


Ó ëîåðîâ ÿ íå ìîãó áîëüøå íè÷åãî ñïðàøèâàòü çà áåñïëàòíî. Îíè íàïèñàëè çà îñòàëüíûì ïðèõîäèòå íà êîíñóëüòàöèþ - 200 äîëë.

Èç îòâåòîâ ÿ ïîíÿë, ÷òî æåíèòüáà íè÷åãî íå äàåò, âñå ðàâíî íóæíî áóäåò âîçâðàùàòüñÿ â Ðîññèþ. Íî ìîÿ öåëü ýòî êàê ðàç íå âîçâðàùàòüñÿ òóäà.

Ðàññêàæèòå ïîïîäðîáíåå ïî ïîâîäó ïîëèòè÷åñêîãî óáåæèùà, êàêèå òàì ãàðàíòèè?
Dron
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: 09.07.2005
: 21

: , 13, 2005 11:37pm     :

Àáñîëþòíûõ ãàðàíòèé íå ãäå íåò. Åñëè òû ïðîõîäèøü, èíòåðâüþ òî òû ïîëó÷àåøü ÷åðåç 2 íåäåëè ñòàòóñ, è æèâè â Àìåðèêå, ñêîëüêî õî÷åøü, à åñëè íå ïîëó÷àåøü, òî äåëî àâòîìàòè÷åñêè ïåðåõîäèò â ñóä. À â ñóäå âñå ìîæåò çàòÿíóòüñÿ íà ïîëãîäà, ãîä è äàæå äâà. Íî âñå ýòî âðåìÿ òû íàõîäèøüñÿ ëåãàëüíî. Êëàññíî!
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: 03.06.2003
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: Moscow

: , 14, 2005 5:39am     :

Dron ():
Àáñîëþòíûõ ãàðàíòèé íå ãäå íåò. Åñëè òû ïðîõîäèøü, èíòåðâüþ òî òû ïîëó÷àåøü ÷åðåç 2 íåäåëè ñòàòóñ, è æèâè â Àìåðèêå, ñêîëüêî õî÷åøü, à åñëè íå ïîëó÷àåøü, òî äåëî àâòîìàòè÷åñêè ïåðåõîäèò â ñóä. À â ñóäå âñå ìîæåò çàòÿíóòüñÿ íà ïîëãîäà, ãîä è äàæå äâà. Íî âñå ýòî âðåìÿ òû íàõîäèøüñÿ ëåãàëüíî. Êëàññíî!
À â ñëó÷àå îòêàçà - ïðÿìèêîì â àýðîïîðò.
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Dron
Íîâè÷îê


: 09.07.2005
: 21

: , 14, 2005 7:00pm     :

 ñëó÷àå êàêîãî îòêàçà? ×òî Âû âñå ïóãàåòå ëþäåé Äåïîðòàöèåé.
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Arthur Gorlov
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: 12.07.2005
: 7
: Allendale, MI, USA

: , 14, 2005 9:48pm     :

Dron, ðàññêàæèòå ïîïîäðîáíåå ïî ïîâîäó ïîëèòè÷åñêîãî óáåæèùà.
Dron
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: 09.07.2005
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: , 14, 2005 10:52pm     :

[Moderated by Andrew]
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Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


: 01.03.2003
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: , 14, 2005 11:13pm     :

Âîò òîëüêî ðåêëàìû íå íàäî!
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Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ
Dron
Íîâè÷îê


: 09.07.2005
: 21

: , 14, 2005 11:23pm     :

Èçâèíÿþñü, íî ëåíü áûëî ïèñàòü âñå çàíîâî Óëûáêà
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Dron
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: 09.07.2005
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: , 14, 2005 11:28pm     :

Äëÿ Ðîññèè âåðîÿòíîñòü ïîëó÷èòü ñòàòóñ áåæåíöà ñîñòàâëÿåò íå ìåíüøå, ÷åì äëÿ Áåëàðóñè. Äëÿ ðîññèÿí â íåêîòîðîì ñìûñëå ïîëó÷èòü ïîëèòè÷åñêîå óáåæèùå äàæå ïðîùå, òàê êàê Ðîññèÿ áîëüøå, è èììèãðàöèîííûì îôèöåðàì ñëîæíåå ñëåäèòü çà ñèòóàöèåé, ïðîèñõîäÿùåé òàì. Õîðîøàÿ èñòîðèÿ – ýòî ëèøü òðåòü ðåçóëüòàòà, åùå òðåòü – ýòî âàøà ïîäãîòîâêà. Êàêîé áû õîðîøåé íè áûëà èñòîðèÿ, êàê áû õîðîøî ìû íè ñòàðàëèñü áû Âàñ ïîäãîòîâèòü, íî èìåííî Âàì ïðèäåòñÿ ðàññêàçûâàòü ñâîþ èñòîðèþ îôèöåðó, è èìåííî Âû áóäåòå âèíîâàòû, åñëè ÷òî-òî íå ñêàæåòå. È åùå òðåòü – ýòî ñàì èììèãðàöèîííûé îôèöåð, êîòîðûé áóäåò âåñòè èíòåðâüþ.  áîëüøèíñòâå ñâîåì îíè ïîíèìàþùèå è ñî÷óâñòâóþùèå ëþäè. Íî ñðåäè íèõ åñòü è òå, êîìó áåçðàçëè÷íû ïðè÷èíåííûå Âàì ñòðàäàíèÿ.

Äàæå åñëè âû ãäå-òî îøèáåòåñü, èëè îôèöåð âñòàíåò íå ñ òîé íîãè, Âàøå äåëî áóäåò îòêëîíåíî, è îíî àâòîìàòè÷åñêè ïåðåõîäèò â ñóä. È âîò óæå â ñóäå èñòîðèÿ - íå òðåòü, à ïîëîâèíà óñïåõà. Ïî íàøåé ñòàòèñòèêå äî ñóäà äîõîäèò ëèøü â 20% ñëó÷àåâ, à 80% ïðîñÿùèõ óáåæèùå ïîëó÷àþò ñòàòóñ áåæåíöà óæå ÷åðåç äâå íåäåëè ïîñëå èíòåðâüþ.

Ïðåäëîæåíèå ìîäåðàòîðó: ìû ìîæåì îáìåíÿòüñÿ ññûëêàìè íà ñàéòû.
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