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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 25, 2005 12:48pm : ïðîèçíîøåíèå |
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Ïðèâåò íàðîä! ß òîëüêî â÷åðà ïîíÿë ñìûñëîâóþ îêðàñêó ïðîèçíîøåíèÿ àíãëèéñêîãî è àìåðèêàíñêîãî âàðèàíòà ñëîâà can't .
Ñèòóàöèÿ áûëà íå èç ñàìûõ ïðèÿòíûõ. ß îáùàëñÿ ñ äåâóøêîé-àìåðèêàíêîé â áàðå. È ñêàçàë åé íà àíãëèéñêèé ìàíåð: no, you can't
Ñòîèëî è ãîâîðèòü î ïîñëåäîâàâøåé ðåàêöèè. : Ó êîãî åùå ñëó÷àëèñü êóðüåçû â ïðîèçíîøåíèè? _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 25, 2005 1:21pm : |
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ß îäèí ðàç äåâóøêå ÷óòü íå íàïèñàë “sweat”, âìåñòî “sweet” Õîðîøî, âî âðåìÿ çàñîìíåâàëñÿ è ïåðåïðîâåðèë – âîò áû âåñåëî áûëî _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 25, 2005 1:22pm : |
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Antonio, ïîäïèñü ó òåáÿ êëàññíàÿ! _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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: , 25, 2005 2:10pm : Re: ïðîèçíîøåíèå |
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Antonio (): |
Ñòîèëî è ãîâîðèòü î ïîñëåäîâàâøåé ðåàêöèè. : |
Âîò ÷òîáû òàêîãî íå áûëî, ìîÿ ó÷èòåëüíèöà àíãëèéñêîãî ðåêîìåíäîâàëà ïðè ðàçãîâîðå íå ñîêðàùàòü à ïîëíîñòü ïðîãîâàðèâàòü "no, you can not". |
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 25, 2005 6:48pm : |
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À ÷òî-òî íå ïîíÿë êàêàÿ ó íåå áûëà ðåàêöèÿ. è ÷òî îíà ïîäóìàëà? _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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: , 25, 2005 7:28pm : |
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ïåðå÷èòàé òîïèê Embarassing Case è âñå ïîéìåøü |
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Slava ÍËÎ
: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 26, 2005 1:16am : |
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White Owl (): |
ïåðå÷èòàé òîïèê Embarassing Case è âñå ïîéìåøü |
Ïîíÿë _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 4, 2005 2:43pm : |
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Ñïàñèáî, Andrew, ÷òî îöåíèë ìîþ ïîäïèñü Ýòî ìîå êðåäî. _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 4, 2005 2:48pm : |
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Äà, à åùå, êñòàòè, íå æåëàòåëüíî ãîâîðèòü äåâóøêàì see you next Tuesday. _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 4, 2005 10:26pm : |
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Antonio (): |
Äà, à åùå, êñòàòè, íå æåëàòåëüíî ãîâîðèòü äåâóøêàì see you next Tuesday. |
Ïî÷åìó? _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 6, 2005 7:05am : |
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Andrew (): |
Antonio (): |
Äà, à åùå, êñòàòè, íå æåëàòåëüíî ãîâîðèòü äåâóøêàì see you next Tuesday. |
Ïî÷åìó? |
ïîòîìó ÷òî äëÿ àìåðèêàíöåâ ýòî ïîëíûé âàðèàíò can't /cunt (see u next Tuesday) Òàê îíè äåâóøåê îïóñêàþò _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 13, 2005 11:32am : |
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Êñòàòè, ñàìûé ïðèÿòíûé ãîâîð, êîòîðûå ìíå äîâîäèëîñü ñëûøàòü ó àìåðèêàíöåâ áûë ó ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé øòàòà Ãàâàéè. Èõ àíãëèéñêèé ïðÿìî óõî ëàñêàë, ÷åãî íå ìîãó ñêàçàòü î ïðåäñòàâèòåëÿõ øòàòà Ôëîðèäà è Òåõàñ. À ñ àôðîàìåðèêàíöàìè - âîîáùå îòäåëüíàÿ èñòîðèÿ. _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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: , 14, 2005 12:45am : Re: ïðîèçíîøåíèå |
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Antonio (): |
ß îáùàëñÿ ñ äåâóøêîé-àìåðèêàíêîé â áàðå. È ñêàçàë åé íà àíãëèéñêèé ìàíåð: no, you can't
Ñòîèëî è ãîâîðèòü î ïîñëåäîâàâøåé ðåàêöèè. : |
No offense, íî ýòî ñêîðåå âñåãî âû ïðîñòî ïðîèçíåñëè can't êàê cunt è ñ÷èòàåòå, ÷òî "íà àíãëèéñêèé ìàíåð". Íàñòîÿùèå àíãëè÷àíå ïðîèçíîñÿò can't ñîâñåì íå òàê, êàê àìåðèêàíöû ïðîèçíîñÿò cunt. Ñîâåðøåííî äðóãîé çâóê íà ñàìîì äåëå.
Î÷åíü ÷àñòî ïðèõîäèòñÿ ñëûøàòü, êàê òèïà àìåðèêàíöû êîãî-òî íå òàê ïîíÿëè, ò.ê. "ÿ ãîâîðèë íà British English", õîòÿ îáû÷íî òîâàðèù äóìàë, ÷òî ãîâîðèë íà British English, à íà ñàìîì äåëå ó íåãî English ìîäåëè "ñîâåòñêèé øêîëüíûé ïî ó÷åáíèêó 50-õ ãîäîâ" ïëþñ ðÿçàíñêèé àêöåíò. |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 14, 2005 3:08am : Re: ïðîèçíîøåíèå |
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Helen_NJ (): |
õîòÿ îáû÷íî òîâàðèù äóìàë, ÷òî ãîâîðèë íà British English, à íà ñàìîì äåëå ó íåãî English ìîäåëè "ñîâåòñêèé øêîëüíûé ïî ó÷åáíèêó 50-õ ãîäîâ" ïëþñ ðÿçàíñêèé àêöåíò. |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 14, 2005 3:10am : |
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À âîîáùå ïðàâèëüíûå àìåðèêàíöû äîëæíû íå òîëüêî ïîíèìàòü, ÷òî ãîâîðÿò èì íà ëîìàíîì ÿçûêå, íî è ïðàâèëüíî âîñïðèíèìàòü âñÿêèå îøèáî÷íî ñêàçàííûå ñëîâà.
Ìû æå ðóññêèå ïîíèìàåì ïðàâèëüíî, êîãäà ãîñïîäà ãîðöû ñ Êàâêàçà ãîâîðÿò "Ó ìýíà â ìàøûí îñ ãóäûò äà!". Ðàçóìååòñÿ, ýòî ïîëóîñü, à íå íàñåêîìîå. |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 18, 2005 6:12am : Re: ïðîèçíîøåíèå |
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Helen_NJ (): |
Antonio (): |
ß îáùàëñÿ ñ äåâóøêîé-àìåðèêàíêîé â áàðå. È ñêàçàë åé íà àíãëèéñêèé ìàíåð: no, you can't
Ñòîèëî è ãîâîðèòü î ïîñëåäîâàâøåé ðåàêöèè. : |
No offense, íî ýòî ñêîðåå âñåãî âû ïðîñòî ïðîèçíåñëè can't êàê cunt è ñ÷èòàåòå, ÷òî "íà àíãëèéñêèé ìàíåð". Íàñòîÿùèå àíãëè÷àíå ïðîèçíîñÿò can't ñîâñåì íå òàê, êàê àìåðèêàíöû ïðîèçíîñÿò cunt. Ñîâåðøåííî äðóãîé çâóê íà ñàìîì äåëå.
Î÷åíü ÷àñòî ïðèõîäèòñÿ ñëûøàòü, êàê òèïà àìåðèêàíöû êîãî-òî íå òàê ïîíÿëè, ò.ê. "ÿ ãîâîðèë íà British English", õîòÿ îáû÷íî òîâàðèù äóìàë, ÷òî ãîâîðèë íà British English, à íà ñàìîì äåëå ó íåãî English ìîäåëè "ñîâåòñêèé øêîëüíûé ïî ó÷åáíèêó 50-õ ãîäîâ" ïëþñ ðÿçàíñêèé àêöåíò. |
Íó, êàê ñêàçàëè àìåðèêîñû, îíè äîâîëüíî ÷àñòî âîñïðèíèìàþò àíãëè÷àí èìåííî ñ íåïðàâèëüíîé ñòîðîíû è íàçûâàëè èõ â ïðèêîë "ìàòþêàëüùèêàìè". Òàê ÷òî íå çíàþ, êàê òàì ðÿçàíñêèé àêöåíò... , íî ÿ ïîíÿë èõ ïðàâèëüíî, è äåëî áûëî íå â ìîåì ïðîèçíîøåíèè. _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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: , 30, 2005 3:52am : |
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Â÷åðà èñïðàâëÿëà ïðîãðàììó, êîòîðóþ íàâàÿë çàåçæèé êîíñóëüòàíò. Ïðîãðàììà âûäàåò ìîùíóþ òàáëèöó, ìíîãèå êîëîíêè óçêèå è èõ íàçâàíèÿ (header), ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, ïðèõîäèòñÿ ñîêðàùàòü. Íó è ñðåäè ïðî÷èõ ïåðëîâ íàçâàíèå "Case Unit" òîâàðèù ñîêðàòèë êàê "CUnt". Êëèåíòû íå çàìåòèëè. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 30, 2005 3:57am : |
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Helen_NJ (): |
Â÷åðà èñïðàâëÿëà ïðîãðàììó, êîòîðóþ íàâàÿë çàåçæèé êîíñóëüòàíò. Ïðîãðàììà âûäàåò ìîùíóþ òàáëèöó, ìíîãèå êîëîíêè óçêèå è èõ íàçâàíèÿ (header), ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, ïðèõîäèòñÿ ñîêðàùàòü. Íó è ñðåäè ïðî÷èõ ïåðëîâ íàçâàíèå "Case Unit" òîâàðèù ñîêðàòèë êàê "CUnt". Êëèåíòû íå çàìåòèëè. |
_________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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koshka Íîâè÷îê
: 02.12.2005 : 23 : USA
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: , 22, 2006 3:58am : |
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Antonio (): |
Êñòàòè, ñàìûé ïðèÿòíûé ãîâîð, êîòîðûå ìíå äîâîäèëîñü ñëûøàòü ó àìåðèêàíöåâ áûë ó ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé øòàòà Ãàâàéè. Èõ àíãëèéñêèé ïðÿìî óõî ëàñêàë, ÷åãî íå ìîãó ñêàçàòü î ïðåäñòàâèòåëÿõ øòàòà Ôëîðèäà è Òåõàñ. À ñ àôðîàìåðèêàíöàìè - âîîáùå îòäåëüíàÿ èñòîðèÿ. |
Åòî âû åùå íå ñëûøàëè þæíîãî àêöåíòà , êñòàòå , ïðåäñòàâèòåëè øòàòà Ôëîðèäà . íî íå âñå òîæå ãîâîðÿò íà íåì , à âîò Òåõàñ ýòî æ íîðìàëüíûé ïîíÿòíûé àìåðèêàí èíãëèøü. È åùå ìîãó âàñ îáðàäîâàòü , ðóññêèé àêöåíò çâó÷èò äëÿ àìåðèêàíöåâ sophisticated , òî åñòü òèïà óòîí÷åííûé . À âîò àíãëèéñêèé èíãëèøü ÿ ïîíèìàþ ñ òðóäîì , ïåðâûé ðàç êîãäà ôèëüì ñìîòðåëà ñ àíãëèéñêèì èíãëèøîì íå ìîãëà ïîíÿòü , ïî÷åìó òàì ãåðîé ãîâîðèò íà àíãëèéñêîì , à ÿ íè ôèãà íå ïîíèìàþ , îêàçàëîñü àíãëè÷àíèí. |
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R.E.M Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.08.2005 : 508 : Novgorod The Great
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: , 22, 2006 9:17am : |
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Ìíå ìîé ñåíñåé (ó÷èòåëü) ñêàçàë, ÷òî àìåðèêàíöû âñ¸ î÷åíü ÷¸òêî ïðîèçíîñÿòü, à àíãëè÷àíå ôûïèëÿâÿò, ïðîãëàòûâàÿ ÷àñòü ñëîâ. Âîò. _________________ Íå ïîíåìàþ çà÷åì çëîñëîâèòü, åñëè õî÷åøü íàñîëèòü êîìó-íèáóäü, äîñòàòî÷íî ñêàçàòü î í¸ì êàêóþ-íèáóäü... ïðàâäó. |
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